The new intel chips o/c so much easier than the old i7 ones, and they are more stable and run cooler as well at high voltages. So nice. LGA2011 please.
Wait so, I should wait on ordering a MoBo because there is a new chipset coming out ? Man the sabretooth TUF looks cool as hell Gru
You dont HAVE to wait. But the new chipset with a few more features is supposed to come out in 2 days.
the big thing is ... are those new features something that are useful to you ... thats what we are saying
Gruune, You buy yet? I always buy ASUS, but there are a lot of great alternatives. Gigabyte is pretty good I hear. What you probably want is a motherboard that is both awesome and will cost you nothing to upgrade. If you get a crossfire/sli with 'crossfire/sli dual @x16' then you can add an extra video card later and still achieve maximum performance. Yeah you might have spent $20-30 extra if you choose to never buy a second graphics card, but when the graphics card prices go down you would have a massive upgrade for really cheap. Crossfire/SLI: "dual @x16" <-- the one with this that is for the CPU you choose
Blackice, No socket 1155 motherboards can achieve full graphics performance when using two graphics cards. Any board that advertises two full 16x lane slots is using a special multiplier chip to get more lanes. But in the end, no matter how many lanes you multiply out to, all that data still has to compress down to 20 lanes of bandwidth when going to the CPU. The CPU itself only has 20 lanes available to utilize and thus that is the maximum bandwidth it can ever get in or push out over PCI-E no matter what. Also, while you may not use some of the features of Z68, I like the option of having onboard video even when it isnt used. If your graphcis card ever dies, your not SOL and can use the computer still and do gaming on low settings while you wait for a new graphcis card to arrive. But thats just me, most people probably wouldnt care about having a backup available to use.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-gaming-3-way-sli-three-card-crossfire,2910.html "We already knew that the fastest processor available for the P67 platform offered better performance than the fastest processor available for X58 in games, but the winning CPU can also hit higher clock speeds by virtue of the 32 nm process used to manufacture it, too. We also knew that the newer Sandy Bridge architecture is faster at the same frequency than its quad-core predecessors based on the Nehalem design. The overclock we used today should have diminished CPU bottlenecks, though. All things being equal, the P67 platform should lose any triple-GPU gaming test due to its limited PCIe pathways compared to X58. Then again, all things are never equal. If nothing else, the settings we used to overclock the X58 platform’s processor might even be considered cheating in its favor. After all, we used a 200 MHz base clock compared to the competing platform’s 100 MHz base clock, and gave the X58 platform 2 GB more memory to enable its triple-channel function. We even encumbered our P67-compatible processor with an artificially-low overclock (compared to what we know it's capable of running at), just to keep it within the limits of its elder competitor. Even though our attempts to make both platforms equal gives LGA 1366 an even greater bandwidth advantage, LGA 1155 still wins. Were we to remove the artificially-low O/C limit imposed upon our P67 platforms and run them at the 4.4 or 4.5 GHz we know they'll take, it would simply win by an even greater margin. And if that reasoning isn’t enough to negate the newer platform’s PCIe limits in the eyes of extreme gaming enthusiasts, adding Nvidia’s NF200 to LGA 1155 enables X58-style x16-x8-x8 connections. While the NF200 doesn’t completely solve the dearth of PCIe lanes available on LGA 1155 platforms, its ability to send identical data to multiple cards makes it perfect for SLI and CrossFire. That benefit, when combined with the Sandy Bridge processor’s superior performance and overclocking capabilities, slams the lid on the coffin for X58 gaming. Anyone who needs the added flexibility of X58 to host other devices, such as high-end drive controllers or six-core processors in a workstation environment, must bow to the gaming superiority of NF200-equiped Sandy Bridge motherboards like Asus' P8P67 WS Revolution."
Excellent point Enigma but you are getting way too into it. Current Crossfire/SLI technology allows two cards to run simultaneously with a negligible loss rate. Check out some gaming specific benchmarks, the difference is almost perfectly double performance. I like that you have so much knowledge of pipeline architecture, and while benchmarking is much further down the line, the results still indicate game-by-game that the difference is almost exactly a multiplier of 2 when using the same card. Last I checked it's at 3 cards where the efficiency significantly drops from '3' to around '2.8'.
the NF200 chip is what I was talking about as a PCI-E lane multiplier BTW. But its good to know that the amazing speed of the SB processors can make up for the deficiency of not having enough PCI-E lanes. Is the SLI/XF scaling up that high now days? Thats good to know. I actually didnt think about the fact that even the top end graphics cards cant saturate 16 lanes of PCI-E 2.0 bandwidth. So that would be why they still scale well. If the cards did saturate that much bandwidth, there would be a problem. But with current gen cards I suppose not having full 16 lanes per card doesnt matter much. Maybe in a couple more generations it would, but the cards would probably still be so powerful that even a small bandwidth limitation would still rip through games like nothing. So in a way we are both right, but my point just didnt matter at all since the graphics cards dont need that much bandwidth. So you win
This sucks. My motherboard has been getting worse for a while now and today finally completely went out on the SATA ports. SO now I have to buy a new MB a day before the launch of the newer chipset...
Redundant systems are what made the Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 such an effective killing machine .... am I Right ?
I really want to get the Gigabyte Z68X-UD7. It seems like a beat of a motherboard: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=270835 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128499 I just dont know if I can justify that cost without some extreme water cooling to make use of the board. these boards went up just a few minutes ago, newegg hasnt even finished loading pics for them all yet at the time I am posting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128499 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128492 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128494 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130596 Of those, the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO is probably the best board around the $200 mark.
I saw a few of those boards in the back yesterday waiting to be tagged and put out on display ... with all this new shit coming out there is almost no room to display / store shit now in the store ha
hahahahaha i dont get good deals really on that such .... i saved only 23 bucks on that total build with the sabertooth and cooler