Prez Bush dodges thrown shoes..he is fast

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  1. Moon
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    wow i Lol'd does that make me wrong hahaa
     
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    Tell me how you really feel. LMAO

    I'm hoping the world turns and things get better. But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you. That even though I don't know you. Even though I may never met you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you. I love u.


    You and I will never see eye to eye. Sadly, for you its weakness.
     
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    Gruune, there are several things you need to understand. Firstly, just because you disagree with some things America does, it does NOT make you an America Hater. I am Canadian, and I don't hate America, but I do hate several things about it, such as homophobia and some aspects of war and such.

    And you can't just focus on the good they've done when talking about an issue like this. By this logic, you could call Hitler a saint, because he did wonders for the German economy... up until he started WWII. But if you exclude that part, he still seems like a good ruler.

    And another reason you guys send the most money, food etc (I don't know the validity of this regardless), but that is because USA is one of the most powerful countries in the world, and it also has a large population density behind it, which contributes largely to its power. I would be willing to bet good money that per person (in the country), Canada donates more money.
     
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    we all know Canada's main export is drunks, comedians and hot moose on moose action. you can donate all the "loonies" you want Canada but we all know it's make believe like Monopoly or Disney bucks that can only be used for beer, rides and x rated moose shows.
     
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    Molotof

    A) You did not grow up in the 50's
    B) It it 2009, America condescending economies just doesn't work anymore, it's like a 400lb person calling someone "fatty".
    C) Lovvvve you =]
     
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    GET OUT OF MY MIND!
    Hugs and Kisses,
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    You need to understand what is said above is crap and hyperbole ... and in my eyes is absolutely America hating ...

    and you said
    "And another reason you guys send the most money, food etc (I don't know the validity of this regardless), but that is because USA is one of the most powerful countries in the world, and it also has a large population density behind it, which contributes largely to its power. I would be willing to bet good money that per person (in the country), Canada donates more money.


    http://www.wfp.org/english/?Key=2166&ModuleID=137

    NO ONE ELSE IS EVEN FUCKING CLOSE NOT BY SEVERAL METRIC TONS >>> 3.4 Million metric tons greater than anyone else

    Canada = 275,498 ... yeah good effort up there boys

    Maybe you (Canada) do donate more per person, but your country also do not let every lowlife, degenerate, craphead, Crimalien or whatever into your country.

    While America does let these dregs of society in ... and when we actually want to enforce our borders; we are haters,racists,murderers .... and whatever else the super liberals want to call us ...
     
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    ^^ Dude you seriously have been brained wash. I can't blame you there are tons of idiots just like you. Read a book man. I suggest you start with Howards Zinn's " A history of the United States" If you still singing the same toon after reading it from front to back. I wouldn't be surprised.


    I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for truth — and truth rewarded me. ~ Simone de Beauvoir
     
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    ummm.... what?

    Firstly, there are lots of those in every country, including America. What difference does it make if you have an American idiot living around you compared to having a Mexican idiot living next to you? Not a damned thing.

    And dude.... I will use a bit of a hyperbole to express my point better here. "WE KICK ASS! WE DONATED $500, 000 TO CANCER RESEARCH! Good work office of 30,000 people! Oh, look at that stupid firm across the street, they only donated $30,000. Those greedy bastards! All 50 of them should be shot!"

    And also, as I said. America is one of the most powerful countries in the world. They have the potential to donate more, so they did.

    In my eyes, its the exact same thing you did but in reverse. You focused on the good (which, I will admit, is pretty damned good support) and Nishua focused on the bad (which is pretty damned bad).
     
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    Who cares Canada isn't even a real country!
     
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    No country is perfect, no president/king/ruler/congress/parliament is perfect, but what it comes down to is doing the best with what you got. To think the actions of the US and Bush with the war are fueled solely by greed is ridiculous. The money isn't there and the results obviously are to the contrary. He took over an economy that was destined to plummet and had the heart wrenching task of deciding what to do about 9/11, an event that transpired and was not a result of his leadership or lack there of.

    With that in mind I don't know a single person in the Tri-state area that was not screaming for blood the day the towers went down. I could see the smoke from across the river and volunteered to go with my fellow firefighters to help out. Sure his execution wasn't flawless but it could have gone down alot worse. When you are the big dog there is always someone who is going to be criticizing you, I am sure we could go back in history over the past couple hundred years and dig up plenty of dirt, idiocy, and potential greed or warmongering in every single country that exists today.

    I am not saying Bush did a great job or a horrible job but he did not have an easy presidency. We wouldn't even be having this conversation if so many countries didn't depend on the US economically. There is a reason why so many markets rise and fall with ours.

    And the comment regarding the US being a bunch of homophobes is silly, as if the US is the only place where it exists or that everyone in the US is a homophobe.
     
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    Oh, make no mistake, I think that with Afghanistan the right move was made. Iraq, hell no. The premise of invading a country because 'They might have weapons of mass destruction' is a waste of lives and also money, and is very, very weak grounds to launch an attack. Don't get me wrong about that either... I'm happy that Hussein was 'overthrown' per se... however I am strongly against pushing your own political stance on other people while holding a gun to their head.

    And about the homophobe thing, the fact that very few states allow gay marriage, and in California they revoked the law, which goes against another law, makes me physically ill. But hey, we are what Jon Stewart calls 'Gay us to the north' (I had to say it, its one of my favorite quotes now), so of course I'd be appalled about it.

    As for Bush, I recognize that he has had a difficult time to be a president, but he brought some of it upon himself... For example, starting another war when you are already at war with another country was a rather dumb move, and very likely had something to do with the recession that the USA is facing today.


    Very delayed response to Molotof: You forgot the moose-on-beaver action.
     
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    Well, NZ has their sheep problem, America has their brink of nuclear war problem and Canada.... we have Quebec.
     
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    i wonder if the problem is with the word marriage being a holy union between a man and a woman, i wonder if people would have a problem with a gay union or something have all the same strings attached with the word marriage but diff name

    or we could just change the definition of marriage

    but all this is getting off track
     
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    They even said Bush got bad intel on the whole Iraq deal. By then he was committed, plus people tend to forget about the people who are in Iraq begging for help and who pledged themselves to the cause. If the US pulled out right away it would have turned into an even larger cluster F.

    P.S. Gay people can get married in NJ and that's the only state that matters.
     
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    True that. Fuck Quebec! (wait, that complicates things for the smart people who were born in Quebec and left like me...)
     
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    Quebec is a flaw in Canada as a country because they have an extremely independent and bias voting basis but they don't actually have enough power to separate, so the separatist party is a joke in itself seeing as Quebec would have nowhere to really go from there, the joke is that if Quebec separates then Canada will join them, and then take a vote to change the name back to Canada.
     
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    Yeah. I know.... I am sorta Canadian :p Gotta love the separatist party that is no longer separating...
     
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    What is this thread about any more?

    lock?