Just ordered a new GFX card.

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  1. EniGmA1987
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    It will run fine having the 1.5v at 1.65, and this would give you some OC room if you didn't have other RAM that had its stock voltage at 1.65. Over time, running the RAM at 1.65v and not overclocking it will ruin the OC potential of the RAM since the chips will be so used to running at that specific voltage and speeds. But thats not a big deal since you aren't overclocking it anyway.

    It is important to note that the chips used in these sticks are almost certainly different chips than your older Corsair RAM. This means that even though it is all Corsair, it doesn't make it all completely compatible and fine running with different kinds of chips. Some processors like certain chips, and hate others. I know for a long time back in the Phenom II 955 days, those processors couldnt barely run Hyper chips, but really liked Elpida's. So it is just different for all processors. It should run fine as long as you are not overclocking, but I doubt there is any headroom on the RAM at all running mismatched chips like that.




    Most companies run the same chips at any given time. Like say 4 companies all release a new model of RAM, it is probably all the same chips if they are similar timings, speed, and voltage. The price difference and quality just come from some companies binning the chips higher than others. Typically Corsair bins the chips best, them and Mushkin. GSkill is a bit lower but still great because they are so cheap. And GSkill does have some lines that they bin very high and have huge OC potential. I know some people running 1866 RAM up at 2400 speeds.

    The best companies to buy from are: GSkill, Corsair, Mushkin, and actually AData has a couple "golden" kits. All companies have their good and bad kits. Like COrsair, only buy the Dominators and Vengeance line. Mushkin only buy Black or Redline. GSkill only buy the Ripjaws line. And I dont know about AData, all I know is I have seen some records pushed with a couple of their things.



    These:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226099

    ^^^^ are probably the same chips as your older Corsair's have
    or the 4GB version of the same:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226134


    Also the newer chips from the smaller process size:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226191
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226190




    EDIT:
    or you can get these Corsairs that have tighter timings (that you cant use anyway paired with some older 9s) for even cheaper than the 9s you are looking at now:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233147
     
  2. Erock
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    they have everything the same just different voltage ... i dont know i dont even think i need 12gb of ram ha
     
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    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1346871

    OC card too 950 core clock 1900 shader 2106 memory

    little but better results

    im going to see if i can hit 1ghz on the core clock when i get back from doing some stuff tonight ... i hit 76 for a temp on load so i dont know if im gonna push it much farther untill we put the central air on in the house
     
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    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1346871


    woooo 5001

    memory 1ghz
    shader 2ghz
    memory 2225!!!!

    hmmmm did a more agressive fan profile and hit 76 during test

    OC scanner for 2 hour time!!!
     
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    Very nice. Did you have to bump the voltage at all or are you still at stock on that even? :)


    Also, memory would either be stated as 1113 MHz, or 4450 MHz. Its actual MHz speed is the first number, but it runs GDDR5 whcih has a quad data rate. So the 2000+ speed is based on a GDDR3 reading which isnt true these days. I know your just reading from the program though.
     
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    yeah im running EVGA precision tool so just going off those settings ...

    I just ran OC tune from EVGA for 2 hours at these settings

    core clock 965
    shader clock 1930
    memory clock 2300

    temps all good ... no artifacts nothing ... so i might actually to get stable in a game at 1ghz core clock and maybe something good on the memory clock ...
     
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    ok ran some more benchmarks and i think im done gonna play some games and hope im stable

    Core Clock 1ghz
    Shader Clock 2ghz
    Memory Clock 2300

    time to play and see if its stable!!!

    p5039

    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1348504

    x1693

    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1348532

    pretty damn good results now im not so pissed haha

    and that is just using EVGA precision tool ... no voltages or anything enigma
     
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    No voltages are actually a good thing. Graphics cards now days are way to sensitive to voltages and die after only a year or two if you overvolt them at all :( Probably has to do with highly advanced architectures on a tiny 40nm process that has high failure rates as is.
     
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    So i just put together a new system. I7 2600k, MSI P67a-GD65, and the hyper 212+ with a CM690II. OC'ed the thing to 4.5ghz, with cpu-z voltage reading at 1.36v, i'm getting temperatures of 70C avg after 18min of Prime95. Compared to Erock's temperatures thats almost 20C higher. Should i try reseating the HS again? Or could it be other issues? I've already reseated the HS once already, then again i'm using CM's thermal paste... dunno how good that stuff is. Any suggestions would be appreciated =P
     
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    I am using the same paste ... maybe re seat it but the issue might also be what kinda case and fan set up you have

    i have antec 300

    2x 120 mm in front pulling in air

    1 120 mm exhaust in back

    1 140 exhaust on top

    and i have 2 120mm on the CPU cooler itself ... in a push pull ... the fans are so close from the cpu that the air is getting suck out instantly :)
     
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    You have to realize, Erock has a 2500k, not the 2600k. You have an additional 4 processing threads generating a bunch of heat that Erock doesn't have to worry about on his.
     
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    Wow, 70C on a CPU is extremely high. Using a stock heatsink there? Maybe it's not seated properly... those plastic push'n twist pegs are difficult to set up properly.

    I have a Ninja Scythe II heatsink with a custom clamp that I've put together out of bits and pieces, and I use pliers to tighten everything. Keeps my CPU very cool.