Considering a PC upgrade (tax return dependent ;) )

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  1. Ryld Baenre
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    Are your temps too high to go any further?

    I thought you went with 16 Gb of 1600 MHz corsair RAM?
     
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    G-Skill 9.9.9.24 16GB RAM [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568]

    Not sure WTF I am doing *sigh* the above OC was mucking with the bus speed and not the multiplier. Found a decent step by step guide that tells you exactly what to set for every freaking option under AI Tweaking and Advanced.
    Went through it and setup my OC for a 45 multiplier and I BSOD at random, same at 44, and 43. Now I can only get a 42 multiplier BUT the kicker which has me totally confused is that CPU-Z reports my buss speed as 103.0 MHz and my multiplier is 41 ... like WTF!

    Been at it for 2 hours already this morning and I am getting rather pissed as this crap ;-P why in the heck can't I get a true 42 multiplier hell why cant I stable out at 45 :( Just do not know enough about OC'ing to be functional.


    Here is what I am setting, mind you I tried 45, 44 and 43 multiplier which BSOD's only 42 seems stable under Heavy IBT

    Ai Overclock Tuner ? Manual


    BCLK/PEG Frequency ? 100.0
    ASUS MultiCore Enhancement ? Disabled
    Turbo Ratio ? Manual
    Ratio Synchronizing Control ? Enabled
    1-Core Ratio Limit ? 45
    Internal PLL Overvoltage ?
    CPU bus speed : DRAM speed ratio mode ? Auto
    Memory Frequency ? The 1600 Option
    EPU Power Saving Mode ? Disabled
    CPU Voltage ? Manual Mode
    CPU Manual Voltage ? 1.2000 - Might need to play Whack-A-Mole with this setting
    DRAM Voltage ? 1.5
    VCCSA Voltage ? Auto
    PCH Voltage ? Auto
     
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    Ok if you have asus mobo/bios. This settings work extremely well for my sabertooth and 3570k
    4.6Ghz
    Blck: 100.1
    Ratio: 46
    Voltage Offset: +0.090 - +0.115 up to you here. 115 if you want 4.8ish oc
    LLC: Extreme
    CPU Power Phase Control: Extreme
    CPU Power Duty Control: Extreme
    CPU Power Response Control: Ultra Fast
    Mem Voltage: 1.5

    Here is my cpuz
    [​IMG]
     
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    If you keep getting bsod you probably need a voltage bump. Keep bumping it 1 step at a time until you get stable (no bsod). I got to 4.5 on my 3570k with no increase, but every chip is different.
     
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    Not see were to set 'Voltage Offset:', do you mean CPU voltage? I have an option for a voltage but it is only Auto and +0.010v thats it, can not be increased etc.. just those two options.
     
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    Thats what you should see.
    CPU Voltage set to Offset Mode
    [​IMG]
     
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    Think I got it sorted out, seems stable. Ran 3x IBT Standard and 3x IBT Heavyy with no issues.
    Posted this reply while a IBT Heavy was running, hope it stays stable.

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    Looks good if it passes IBT or prime95. A key thing for overclocking is a little program called BluScreenView. You can find a list of common BSOD codes associated with OCing on the net and adjust from there. If what you have is stable I would recommend dropping your voltage down slowly and CPU PLL voltage to lower your temps. If you're prime95 stable for 20-30 minutes your OC is probably fine. You can run it for 13 hours or 24 hours but your cpu is never going to see that kind of stress unless you are doing rendering/encoding.

    List of stable 3570k overclocks

    Can you post a screen of what speed your RAM is running at?
     
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    DDR3-1600MHz

    Already rebooted a gazillion times ;) I'll snag screen shots later

    Best I can do stability wise is

    100 x 45 = 4500 MHz
    .080 CPU Voltage Offset which comes out to 1.272v, any lower and I BSOD. Tried .075,.070, .065 and .065 all BSOD.

    Ran that through IBT Heavy about 4 times without issue, RealTemp numbers:
    MAX: 69,73,72,71
    Might be a bit to high? not sure how I can lower them unless I do not use the CPU Voltage Offset and set a manual Voltage to something between 1.250 - 1.272 *shrug*

    Should I be concerned with those numbers??
     
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    Nope. 70-80c for you cpu is perfectly fine =]
    100c is when you got to worry.
     
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    Only thing I _HATE_ about this mopo ... No IDE/EIDA/PATA slot(s) for my DVD-RW!!
    Pretty sad I have to use a USB DVD-RW now ....
     
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    I got a USB external DVD drive I just hook up when I need it. 99% of my stuff is download. Weeeee
     
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    ide/pata been out of mobos for like past 3 years =]
     
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    How in the heck does one install an OS then?? everyone now has shitty USB drives???
    Or am I so out of the loop here *lol*
     
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    DVD-RW use sata now =]
     
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    4uc you ;-P
     
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    WTF now..
    Running all morning fine, roughly 10 IBT tests.. split between standard and heavy no errors / no issues. Ram Prime95 for 3.5 hours no errors/no issues.
    Connect to work via VPN, check work mail complete freeze total lockup.. wtf!!

    just got hit by 2 BSOD's with the following

    *sigh*
     
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    you are fine under load, but when the speed and voltage drops to save power during an idle state or low usage state you are no longer stable. Means you either didnt set your vcore properly with its offset or you just need more. That BSOD code is definitely low CPU VCC related




    Doxy:
    You should try and turn down your load-line calibration. Extreme is bad news and it spikes the voltage to the CPU really bad when changing from a load to no-load state and can damage the processor

    Also 100c may be the technical max, but it is not meant to really be running at that during normal load all the time. Most people consider 85c the max they should hit, with 90c being the absolute max for if you are running a continuous load.
     
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    Bumped it up to .085 and will see how it fairs. Started out at .090, was IBT stable so I dropped it down to .075 and got BSODS, bumped backup to .080 and it was IBT stable again. With this last BSOD I pushed it up to .085.
     
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