[BSN]The 2013 Nvidia Lineup: GTX780 is Titan LE, GTX770 is GTX680, GTX760Ti is GTX670

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Doxy, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. Rbstr
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    0
    There's just so much die area on the 780 that there's no way it'd hit $500 on release, as much as people may have hoped...I could have seen myself going for it at $600...but that was sort of a pipe dream.

    But that puts the 770 in a weird position. I don't think they can get away with dropping it at $500 when it's not really any different from the 680.
     
  2. EniGmA1987
    Veteran Staff Member Xenforcer

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Messages:
    4,778
    Likes Received:
    34
    Havent the "#80" cards from each gen for the past 4 years or so always debuted at $600-$700 price point anyway? I see no reason Nvidia would change that now. Their strategy works very well because people still pay that much no problem.
     
  3. Sogetsu
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Messages:
    7,511
    Likes Received:
    3
    Occupation:
    Logistics
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    Agreed! Intel kinda does the same.
     
  4. trancet
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2012
    Messages:
    291
    Likes Received:
    2
  5. Rbstr
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, the benches are in, and it's exactly what you'd expect for 90% of a Titan...90% of a Titan but 65% of the price. So 15-30% better than a 680.
    I sort of want to say that makes it a good deal. But that's in highly relative terms.

    They're up on newegg now. $650 + $4 shipping

    Things are kinda screwy and I'm stuck. The 570 just isn't up for snuff for the 1440p monitor.
    I want to stick nVidia for the power/heat/noise over going with a 7970Ghz plus drivers and some minor fanboy bias, but I can't pay more for less, with the the 680. Anyone seen 770 price leaks? the x70 has usually been a $400 card.
     
  6. EniGmA1987
    Veteran Staff Member Xenforcer

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Messages:
    4,778
    Likes Received:
    34
    I will be skipping this generation of cards. Consoles are around the corner and if I buy a good card from the next gen I can probably end up keeping that card for the entire console generation.
     
  7. Sogetsu
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Messages:
    7,511
    Likes Received:
    3
    Occupation:
    Logistics
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
  8. Reinier
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Hialeah, Florida
    I wonder when the GTX 790 will be announced... I thought about getting two 780's in sli for my next pc upgrade in the end of this year (when the ivy bridge-e debuts) but ive heard that SLI sometimes causes stuttering with the cards so I think it might be better just to wait for the 700 series dual-gpu card (the GTX 790). Currently the GTX 690 performs better than the Titan but I want something with the newest technology. Getting a dual-gpu card would probably save money as the GTX 690 and the Titan are both around $1,000 and getting two SLI cards would probably cost anywhere from $900-$1200.

    I know it sounds like alot of money to spend on a video card and it might be overkill but the reason I want it is so that I wont have to upgrade for several years.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2013
  9. Doxy
    Veteran Camelot Unchained Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2012
    Messages:
    1,003
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    Canada
    Alot of money? =]
    Cough* 1450$ for a single Titan Hydro Copper *Cough
     
  10. Rbstr
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    0
    A dual GPU card will cause the same stuttering and other issues that SLi does....because it still basically is SLI.
    ...I'm sure you'd be looking at $1500 for such a thing.

    Interestingly you can get 3 780s for the price of two titans....so I guess that's sort of the ultimate bang-for-the-buck if you're an insane person.

    If you want to be good for several years, and don't have higher resolution requirements, instead of getting a Titan or 780, get a a $3-400 card now and a $3-400 card in two years. You'll be better off.
     
  11. Reinier
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Hialeah, Florida
    Hey copper is expensive man :p I havent really experimented too much with water cooling yet but it sounds like a good idea for my next rig since I live in Florida it gets pretty hot down here. I can litterally feel the room where I have my pc and all my electronics get hotter than the rest of the house because I have so many electronics in that one room.

    So the dual gpu cards cause stuttering too? I thought that was only an issue with SLI setups. There is also the power consumption to think of when running SLI vs a dual-gpu setup, each card uses 250-300 watts regardless if its dual-gpu or a single gpu card. In that sense you could would also use less power and thus generate less heat by using a single card over 2 cards in a tightly packed space since most cards these days use up 2 slots because of the coolers.

    I would probably save money in the long run but I dont think the experience would be the same, having a card that litteraly kills everything in the water for now and a few years to come means that I dont have to worry about not being able to run any game with all the settings on Ultra or maxed out, with a $400 card these days you might be able to run on a mix of High/Ultra but not everything on Ultra without getting less than 30-40 fps.
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2013
  12. Ryld Baenre
    Veteran FPS Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,487
    Likes Received:
    3
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    The higher your SLI config goes the more incompatibility there is with games. Dual gpu cards are in SLI, just on a single card. 2x dual GPU cards = quad sli/quadfire
     
  13. Rbstr
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    0
    The 770 has reached us. The Anand review http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review

    680+ some hz in the core and a lot of them in the memory. And Boost 2.0, so it doesn't just clock on power but temperature.
    Higher TDP than the 680, obviously, but still less than my 570.

    It's also cheap, $400. Gives nVidia a better price/performance near the 7970 and ghz edition.
    Makes me wonder how they're going to fill the $250 price void up to the 780.
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2013
  14. PersonalRiot
    Veteran Xenforcer

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,573
    Likes Received:
    54
    Video cards are strange. If there is no major progression in Technology, then a Titan over a course of 4 years isn't really a huge investment. But as soon as new tech is retailed then the last generation drastically decreases in value.
     
  15. Sogetsu
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Messages:
    7,511
    Likes Received:
    3
    Occupation:
    Logistics
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    Glad I waited to buy my 670 :tehe:

    Will be interesting to see what AMD comes back with. Especially since the 7970GE is still kicking ass and taking names.
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2013
  16. Rbstr
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    0
    In many was the GHz Ed. is pretty much what the 770 is. They pushed the chip up to the highest they can really go, given reliability tolerance. I'm sure they'll try to pull the last stop out but I wouldn't expect anything revolutionary mid-cycle. It's unfortunate they couldn't do a die-shrink. Common platform just hasn't got the 14nm stuff up and running yet...and it's not really even true 14nm. nVidia apparently has some process issues as-is.


    AMD's new set of chips is do sometime in the later fall IIRC. They might not do anything but price-cut.
    nVidia's isn't until somewhat later.

    At any rate, the upgrade is good enough that I'll probably be buying a 770 to replace my 570. I may wait for a 4gb version, though.
    And none of the stuff available now has a blower, let alone the Titan-style cooler. Open air screws with my case's current flow-config.
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2013
  17. Sogetsu
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Messages:
    7,511
    Likes Received:
    3
    Occupation:
    Logistics
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    Ill be waiting for the 770 4GB to replace my 570.

    Still not completely impressed by everything but I'm going to let it air out for a week or two then re-read reviews to make my final purchase decision. I'm not selling my rig for another 2 or 3 weeks anyway.
     
  18. Rbstr
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    0
    So it turns out, unexpectedly, next month my rent is dropping by $225 because...summer discount (yay college towns?).

    That happens to be almost exactly the upgrade from a 770 to a 780 and it won't hit my planned budget at all. So instead of just having extra savings I'm gonna order one today. I'm fucking nuts.

    It doesn't really seem like brand is going to matter much...Who have you guys had the best service/warranty experience with?
     
  19. Doxy
    Veteran Camelot Unchained Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2012
    Messages:
    1,003
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    Canada
    Id wait few weeks. EVGA is coming out with FTW soon.
    PLUS with recent issue http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1944772
    it will be wise to order directly from EVGA.
     
    Last edited: May 31, 2013
  20. Rbstr
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't really care about "FTW" if it's bumping up the cost more.
    Or if it's not a blower card.

    The Superclocked version was interesting because it was $10 more, but all of EVGA's cards is out of stock. Only ones on Amazon prime in stock are PNY and ZOTAC. Gigabyte Galaxy and MSI are on newegg but I don't get free 2-day there.
    EVGA themselves have no stock except "hydrocopper"s and it seems like that firmware update is just running an EXE, easy.