New IPS Monitor 23"-24" for TOR and watching Videos

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  1. Kazeekage
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    i need some help by buying a new monitor for myself, cause i cant decide which one i should buy. i have a http://www.benq.com/product/monitor/g2220hd BenQ 21.5" G2220HD Monitor right now and is nearly at his dead.

    1, http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=corp&sku=320-2807

    2, http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=320-2676

    which one would you prefer to buy? or do you have some better Monitors you can show me? I'm interested in your answers :)
     
  2. Raelinoith
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    Hrm, myself too midly..
    I'm staring at an old Sony Vaio something or other monitor from like..god knows how long ago. lol
     
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    I like that it has everything on the monitor but do these come with DVI-D Dual Link?

    when shopping for a new monitor always be sure to look at the following things

    - Refresh rate, make sure its 2ms or lower for optimal gaming
    - Check the contrast ratio on it, the higher the contrast ratio the better the colors will be on the monitor.
    - Check the maximum supported screen resolution for the monitor.
    - Make sure it has dual link DVI-D, this enables you to get more then 60fps on your monitor without screen tearing and without having to turn on vertical sync. Dual link DVI supports resolutions up to 2048x1536 @85 fps vs the max of 1600x1200 @60fps of a single DVI or HDMI connection.
    - Always read the reviews before buying a product to know of issues you might encounter if you decide to buy it.

    If your going to be using a monitor with a single link dvi you might as well use a tv instead (like me) :p I have my computer hooked up to my tv but the maximum screen resoltion I can run it at is 1920x1080@60fps. When your looking at a 46 inch screen though its alot nicer then looking at a 22"-25" screen. I wouldnt mind being able to run it at 85fps but tv's dont support dual link dvi connections.
     
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    if i am not mistaking IPS is generally not a good thing for a gamer as they always have a 8ms or higher response time

    also try and find a monitor with above 1920 x 1080 resolution and 2ms or 1ms response time :)
     
  5. EniGmA1987
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    As Erock and Reiner said, you have to think about response time. So lets think about it for a second.

    A response time is 8 miliseconds on an IPS (usually) Technically, a person cant respond faster than some 50ms. So lets add 50 + 8 + (lets say your slower than the best) 25ms = 83 milliseconds response time. (I measured my response time at closer to 20ms and if I can anticipate then I have been able to get down to 0ms response time, so scientists can suck it) So even with an IPS monitor you can respond faster than 1/10 of a second if your decent at gaming. The eye can barely perceive an 8ms difference (if at all?) so I dont think you will notice any kind of ghosting from an IPS panel due to response time of the panel. Even if you have a good TN panel with 2ms response time, your still looking at 77ms average time, which is barely faster than 83ms. Nothing to complain about. Your skill at gaming will be more of a factor than a 6 milisecond difference between a panel IMO.

    A TV actually has much higher response times because you have the panel response time + the processing response time of the TV. You need to turn off all sorts of processing on a TV in order to get the lowest response time, and even then you will still have a little bit. So an IPS panel TV may have around 15-30ms response time depending on the processing options you have enabled.


    Once you have owned an IPS panel, you cant go back to TN panels. TN just sucks. a TN is only a 6-bit color panel, with interpolated colors for 8-bit. It does NOT support the advertised 16.7 million colors. an IPS panel is a true 8-bit panel supporting the standard range of colors.

    Reiner, LCD panels do not allow for more than 60Hz refresh rate so dual link doesnt matter if you are at 1080p resolution. There are MAYBE 4 ot 5 models of LCD that truly allow for 120Hz on an IPS panel, but the OP isnt buying any of those so it doesnt matter. All 120Hz displays just use interpolation to fake the 120 and it still actually refreshes at 60Hz. If you tell your LCD to refresh at 85Hz or whatever, it still does 60Hz and actually causes some stuttering because the panel can only do 60. You CANNOT run at higher than 60fps/Hz unless you buy a true 120Hz display (which are few and far between) or unless you use a CRT.







    If you can afford it you should get this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236119

    That is a VERY good quality IPS panel, supporting "12-bit" color. My guess is its is a 10-bit panel with interpolating the other colors. Still better than not trying to display them at all though. But seriously, it has a pretty good contrast ratio, very good brightness, incredible color, fast response time, 3 year warranty against any "bright dots" which I take to mean dead pixels. Warrantied if a single pixel is bad (most others dont unless there are 7 or more), its a professional monitor so it has priority RMA service, has great viewing angles, height and tilt adjustable, every input you can possibly ever use, and a built in USB hub and card reader!
     
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    The LED Backlight option is a superior selling point for IPS monitors. IPS monitors are exacting in clarity and the backlight enhances this specific trait. I recommend the 2412 for the backlight. It also has 8ms response time which is tolerable for gaming and video (I wouldn't go higher than 8ms).
     
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    Those are really amazing monitors. In my opinion they are the best monitors on the market feature wise. The only problem is they are made from Samsung's Mexico facility. And (sorry people from Mexico) those facilities are known to have some of the worst build quality and QC of any electronics in the world. So while I would definitely get one of those monitors, be prepared to calculate an extra $50 or so just in case you need to send one or two back until you get one that is made right. Hence why the monitors are so hard to find now days. Definitely dont buy an open box or refurbished, new only.

    Although, those monitors may be made somewhere else now. The return rate was upwards of 40% (atrocious I know) on them when the monitors were made in Mexico and most retailers pulled the products off the shelves and stopped selling because it was so bad. Maybe Samsung wised up and fired everyone from where they used to be made.
     
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    OK bought the 27" one for 416bucks which are 100.000HUF which is in Hungary very cheap cause normally it cost 150bucks more which means 130.000HUF
    in the EU the prizes are Higher than in the US so we suck with IT product prizes here :( but I'm happy that i have the best 120Hz 3D gaming Monitor now on the Market.