FX-6300 OC for AA

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  1. Proxy
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    SO here's the deal, i'm building a pc for Archeage and i kind of was on a budget and i bought an AMD FX-6300, now, i know it runs AA without any issues when its overclocked, but i don't think i can keep it on overclock 24/7 so my question is, how well would the FX-6300 run AA WITHOUT Overclock?

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  2. EniGmA1987
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    The FX processors really start to be good when overclocked only, they actually have better than 1:1 performance scaling with frequency increase in video games, because the architecture was designed for very high speeds. You can leave the CPU overclocked 24/7 and it will be fine, but it does produce more heat and use more power to do so, but it wont be damaging to the processor unless you are overclocking wrong in the first place.


    What are you overclocking the core to?
    What are you overclocking the northbridge to?
    What is your core voltage and CPU-NB voltage?
    what heatsink do you have?
    And what are your core temperatures under 100% load?
    Oh and what motherboard do you have?



    For best performance you should turn off cool n quiet as well as APM, or application power management if your bios calls it that. These will keep the CPU at the speed you set it to be overclocked to. Those settings in the bios will downclock the CPU under less load, but it does not work very well and so you can lose 10-20% performance in games when they are turned on. However, you may find performance still acceptable with them on, so if you do then you can use them to leave the processor overclocked, but the CPU will still auto-downclock when not under load. Best of both worlds as long as you still get the performance you want.
     
  3. PersonalRiot
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    I overclocked my 6300 to 4.7Ghz. Personally I think it was a fun experience but for the price of the cooling unit and the CPU; I easily could have gone Intel. *shrug* Either way, I highly recommend overclocking if you pick one up though - lots of guides on the internet to help out.
     
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    -I was planning to OC to around 4.5, a bit less if i feel its too much
    -idk what a northbridge is ._.
    - i still dont know im still building the pc, will have all the parts by next week
    - Cooler Master 212 EVO
    -Still dont know
    -Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
    since im at it i should probably say what else i got so here goes:
    - Sapphire R9 280X GPU
    -2x4GB Corsair Vengeance RAM sticks
    -750W Power Supply/Source
    Thanks for the Help
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  5. EniGmA1987
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    Ah alright, I thought you already had the CPU in. 4.5GHz is where these processors really start to open up with their performance. The architecture was originally designed to run at 5GHz and above, which was where the base CPU speeds were supposed to start. Due to things going horribly wrong at Global Foundries, the CPUs had to launch at much slower than intended speeds and drew a lot more power, on top of having some deficiencies in the architecture because it was brand new, such as the L1 data cache issue and L3 frequency. it all added up to a much less than spectacular processor, but you can still get great performance once you start running at 4.5GHz or more. That CM 212 EVO is a pretty good cheap little cooler. Hopefully you will get lucky with your FX-6300 and you can make it to 4.5GHz with it.


    The northbridge used to be an actual chipset on the motherboard, but AMD integrated most of it into the CPU about 10 years ago or so and completely integrated it inside the CPU a couple years ago now. Basically it refers to your memory controller, but it does more than that. overclocking your northbridge will give you better memory performance when you are running higher than 2GHz memory speeds, and it will also increase your cache performance quite a bit because it also is how fast the L3 cache runs. L3 is used for cross-module communication between cores so it will mostly help your multi-threaded performance rather than apps that just use a single core. The newer FX architecture cannot run as high of NB speeds as older Deneb and Thuban core's did, but you can still get it up around 2.4Ghz or so pretty much always. My own FX-8350 runs at 2.6GHz northbridge speed.
     
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    Ok, thanks for the info, i will see what i can do with my noob skills!
     
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    I just built an AMD based pc, and went with the FX 6350 for only $20 nore than the 6300. Its bae clock is at 3.9ghz and the boost clock from AMD will reach 4.2ghz. I have it running at 4.8ghz stable, and only raised the cpu voltage .10 volts. Its quite the budget CPU.
     
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    i believe the FX 6350 is just a factory overclocked FX 6300, but good job on getting it to 4.8 thats amazing
     
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    Everything is binned from the FX-8350. Things that perform exceptionally well of those parts get labelled and sold as the FX-9xxx CPUs. Parts that dont meet specifications get moved to either the FX-8320 or the FX-6350 depending on where the failure in the CPU is. Failed 8320 bins and failed 6350 bins get moved down to FX-6300. If they fail that, it gets moved down to the FX-4300 line. So nothing is really an "factory overclocked" version except the FX-9xxx line, everything else is just a failure from the 8350's to one extent or another.