Best HDTV 1080p cheap GFX ?

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  1. haibane
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    Hey folks,

    I kinda wanna change the GFX i got for my living room PC which is plugged to my Plasma TV and i use mostly to watch movies, as i'd like to be able to game on it too when i want to play big picture games on steam (a la TR / Witcher), basically non PS4 exclusives that cost 1/4th the price than on console :p

    Therefore, i'm kinda waiting to find some super discount on a GFX that would make it super fluid on 1080p in max settings.

    It's running on my 65 Panasonic viera but i ain't sure of the Hz frequency to prevent tearing (it's a pain in the ass when i watch b-rays) as plasma is different than LCD.

    I'm guessing the 4gb 770 Geforce (1 only) is the way to go ?
     
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    As in "The Witcher" or The Witcher 3 coming out soon? Cause max settings on #3 will bring a titan or 290X to its knees.
    You can get a GTX 750Ti as a "super discount" GPU that will run nearly anything in 1080p at high settings perfectly well, but I dont know about maxed out.


    Plasma Hz is still 60Hz, or 96Hz during specific bluray playback times. Newer ones can be overclocked to 96Hz for computer use though :D Basically any plasma TV that lists 96Hz playback of 24p content is capable of 96Hz refresh rate, you just have to force it to go there when using a PC. The whole 600Hz business is mostly marketing, because the base Hz is still 60 and plasmas do something called sub frame sampling. Most plasma do 10x subframe sampling, old cheaper ones do 8x sampling, really high end ones do 12x sampling. A TV with 12x would be listed as 720Hz. Panasonic has it's newest TVs that have something a little different though and I am not exactly sure on its inner workings yet, the new tech is called focused field drive and it is available in 2500Hz and 3000Hz refresh rates. I suspect base refresh is still 60Hz or a multiple thereof though.
     
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    I think mine has the focused field drive yes, bought it last year. Ok i'll try putting it to 96hz, it has no adverse effect on the tv i guess ? Same for an LCD?
     
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    99% of LCDs cannot do anything above 60Hz, even ones sold as 120 or 240 or even 480Hz displays. They use a 60Hz refresh rate and interpolate frames in between to give a higher perceived refresh rate. Somewhat similar to subfield sampling, but not as good in practice. The subfield sampling also does not add input lag, LCD interpolation adds lots of lag. There are only a few LCD TVs that can display a true 120Hz signal. If you have a last years model Panasonic plasma with FFD then you probably have the same TV I do (only bigger) and it should support 96Hz display. I have personally done this myself on a Panasonic TC-P55VT50. It will not damage the TV in any way because the TV is specifically designed to be able to support that feature, the firmware just tells the TV to only auto select it when a 24 frame per second signal is detected. The reason for this is syncing FPS with Hz gives the best smoothness, same as on a PC with 96Hz/48FPS. Except movies are 24fps and displaying 48Hz causes flickering on the display because the eye can see the refresh rate happening, so 96Hz is used instead to get rid of the flickering and still sync to a multiple of the framerate. 120Hz would also work to sync right but there are no plasma's yet that go that high.

    If you do get 96Hz working for your HTPC, then you can use an Nvidia card once again with the adaptive half rate and then you only need to maintain 48fps instead of 60. a GTX770 would be awesome, but might be overkill unless you really do plan on a lot of gaming on the TV. A GTX760 would probably do well enough. and if you dont care to max out all settings then as I said before the brand new 750Ti will do nicely.


    EDIT: if you look up your TV on Panasonic's site you should see something like this under the tech specifications:
    That means it would support 96Hz
     
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  5. Ryld Baenre
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    750 ti is what I would go for also. Even the Witcher 1/2 still brings high end gpus to their knees if you really want to. Grab the ti with the acx cooler from evga and it will do you well.
     
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    Thanks for all the info.
    It seems that i got this model, based on the ESN i put on google even if i ain't sure, i can't find the model number anywhere in the TV menus :

    Edit : found my model it's TCP60ST60

    http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P60ST60

    Thought i had a 65, meh.

    Panasonic website doesn't say shit but on CNET it says it does 96hz playback and it has the Focused Field
     
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