But Which One? I'm sure this question comes up from time to time on here, but I'd rather start my own thread to reference. Also, I think the HEX and G600 are relatively new, so I'd like some peeps to weigh in who've had experience with using the devices I have listed below. One thing to keep in mind, I have big hands (as in long, not meaty) so I'll need one that won't cramp me up. Any advice, reviews, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Logitech G600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104674 Razer Naga http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153064 Razer Naga Hex http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153096 Cyborg MMO Gaming http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826201003
I've got a Razer Naga myself, and I love it. As I've mentioned in prior threads, in Aion I have over half of my skills bound to my mouse so I never have to move my hands from where they are on the keyboard, so I can stay moving at all times, and using all my skills and consumables on all 6 of my skill bars (Including my macros, yeah) <.< However, from using it in GW2, I don't think you'll need THAT many buttons. The Naga Hex would probably be fine, and you'd get used to using it faster. (Took me about 2 days to get used to 1-6 on my Naga, then about 2 weeks to get used to hitting 7-12 without thinking about it/making a mistake) The reason I say that is cause I never used anything higher than 6 on my Naga in GW2 beta's so far. Although, that may change when I start binding more keys to my mouse for WvW and sPvP at higher levels. (Examples, binding mark target to my mouse, and selecting marked target to my mouse, and many other things.) Although, I still doubt you'd need all 12 keys. You could do the same on a Hex, just with Ctrl/Alt + Button. (I have 1-12, Alt+1-12, and half of Ctrl+1-12 bound on my Naga in Aion. >.>) tl;dr I love my Naga, but honestly a Hex would probably work fine. Reasons above. <.<
I haven't used the cyborg MMO but I have the RAT7 and don't have anything bad to say about it other than that they didn't include enough weights with it for my liking. They should have given just as many as they did with the wireless RAT9. I get the feeling that the cyborg MMO will have all the buttons you will need for GW2 or any other game for that matter. It's not a bad choice if you can get it to fit your hand. I would recommend getting it from a bestbuy in case you don't like it. They have the best return policy in my opinion.
Lot of people are saying they like the g600 over the Naga mostly because they find it easier to find the button they want.
The G600 pad does have a good texture to it. You probably don't need that many buttons but with the 1-0 and F1-F4 combat keys in GW2 it does help not to have to go hunting for skill keys on your keyboard hand when you want to keep moving. It actually has a shift button (the third one on the top, far right) by default and can be set up to switch profiles and DPI settings on the fly. A bit overkill for most games though a shift might be nice in the kind of MMO where you have unending hotbars... still, I've mapped the shift to push-to-talk for TS3. The profile of the G600 is relatively high but not uncomfortably so, particularly if you have large hands. It's not an enormous mouse but it's big enough - if you can I'd suggest checking the size at a retailer. The one thing that baffles me about the G600 is who thought rainbow lights was a good feature to have. Fortunately you can turn them off.
I got a Razer Deathadder at the beginning of the year, but it only has 2 extra buttons on the side. While I probably could have used the Naga (or similar) mouse -- I was quite intimidated by it.
Nice! I didn't even know there was a Logitech G600. I was planning on getting the Naga, but I think I'll get the Logitech G600 instead.
I've been using the G600 for about a month now (Best Buy snuck it out even before the preorders got theirs!) and absolutely loved it. I've always been a Logitech guy but was indeed starting to find myself somewhat limited on the lack of keybinds for my right hand so I switched to a Naga even though it wasn't the most comfortable fit for my hand (I too have very long fingers). As soon as I heard about the G600 I jumped on it. This mouse fits my hand like a glove! The only real complaint I have so far is that it's a tad heavy for my tastes.
I would not get a cyborg mouse. Two of my friends bought them and they each broke within the first month of use. Logitech and Razer have always been good to me.
This is great feedback! I think I'm leaning towards the G600. @Retsah: Do you have any issues with the "cursor jump" being reported in many of the reviews on NewEgg? I wonder if it's just a result of people running max sensitivity?
Dont know exactly what those people are seeing, but my guess would be that "cursor jump" would be a combination of monitor refresh + sensitivity + polling rate. Monitors refresh at 60 times per second, a mouse by default refreshes at 200 times per second. This mouse probably has the drivers locked at 1000 times per second, or at least set to that as default. So updating the mouse way faster than the monitor updates could cause the mouse to look jumpy, especially if the sensitivity is way up which would cause lots of movement for every refresh the monitor does. Ill test right now (Razer Naga)
I've had that happen rarely but I saw the same kind of thing on the last mouse I used. It might be an issue with using a laser mouse on the kind of mousepad I have. Didn't see it on an optical mouse.
Zero so far. I did have Tracking issues on slight occasions with my Naga but nothing to drastic. It's been a pretty short time with the G600 in comparison but so far I've encountered no issues at all. The side buttons also supply more feedback than the Naga buttons did. I really actually FEEL like I'm pressing the buttons when I do and the way they curved the buttons so it's basically like 2 separate sets makes it much easier to distinguish between all 12 buttons in the heat of battle. Something I frequently fought with the Naga.
After reading over my messages I realize I kind of sound like a fanboy. I'm trying to remain unbiased but the truth of the matter is that I haven't been happy with any mouse I've tried since abandoning my G500 quite some time ago in search of more buttons. I'm just really happy to be back with Logitech. I was FURIOUS with them when they stepped away from their normal design to make the G9. It felt terrible in my hands due to my long fingers and how I hold the mouse and the same can be said for most of the mice I've tried since. I forced myself to get used to it with the Naga because I actually used most of the extra buttons (In SW:TOR that mouse was a godsend for me) so now that Logitech has went back to the taller design and has added the buttons on the side I'm hoping you guys will humor me for sounding like a kid in a candy store. I just love this mouse THAT much All that being said, Mice I've found is very much a personal preference thing. It's all about how you hold your mouse, how your hand is shaped and if you're into having more bind options available to you.
Yep my theory is a bust. I couldnt get any jumping to happen no matter what DPI or polling rate I was at. The only thing that made the mouse have "jumpy" movement was in Windows changing the sensitivity to high (11). DPI in the driver setting and Windows sensitivity are different, shouldnt mess with the Windows stuff except to set sensitivity right in the middle and turn off "enhance pointer precision". The Windows setting in the middle (6) is 1:1 ratio, changing it higher or lower adjusts that ratio and does inter/extrapolation.
I just turned that off... suddenly the cursor behaves more smoothly. That may have something to do with it.
I have the naga, but I had to replace it because the left click button started clicking twice with one press. Other than that the naga is amazing.