PC vs. Mac

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  1. mercsan
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    I guess, but no really if you want the best of the best. Buy samsung.
     
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    the only negatives on review of my model were not present in mine, so i really don't see the point in paying hundreds more for the same size as i have no dead pixels and the reviews are basically on par with the samsung model for video quality.
    besides, if you're going to pay top dollar for high performance hardware that works well out of the box, then go buy a mac and install windows on it.
     
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    Dual quad-core Xeons is something you would run on a high-end server or maybe 3D CAD/modelling workstation. You don't need them for gaming.
     
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    You have never gamed on a Samsung, so I forgive you for saying this
     
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    lol macs...

    They're only good for 3d animation, never had a problem with any that I've used, even older ones. However, if I were to actually buy one I'd just put together a PC and install OSX. I'd never use a mac for anything but 3d animation though. I'm just not too familiar with it and there's not enough flexibility with the OS.

    You can always tell someone is a complete novice with PCs when they claim that PCs crash less. PCs are easier to screw up but they don't screw themselves up.
     
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    The thing is that Both systems suffer for Pebkac (problem exists between keys and chair -- I think thats how its spelt--).
    People think that Macs do everything automatically - but they don't, if you don't have updaters active or other programs up and going they tend to crap out and open themselves to new and wonderful issues.
    With PCs its the software that is loaded onto them that cause them to crash, go smash cos there is 1million +++++ different ways to have a linux/windows/ubuntu/..........PC and something hardware wise goes woefully wrong.
    Macs are over priced and even if you don't want to admit it - are designed as anti-competition devices. Mickeysoft got hit by that lawsuit a few years back.
    I'm a PC kinda guy myself, cos I know if I don't like ole whats his face Gates and lackeys I can turn to some young enterprising software developer on the net and get an OS for free - Then I can break it myself ^_^
    Also if you want to do really good graphics/image creator, why waste your money on a unergonomic system that will leave your hands and fingers feeling like they have been masturbating a brick for the past 10+ hours? Cos when I was selling Macs I felt what their keyboards and mice are like /yuck!!!
    I use a PC, its got a logitech G5 mouse and a G15 keyboard. Please try and tell me that those are useless prices of crap?
     
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    hahaha

    And no, actually the mouse and keyboard you have are both quite well-respected. Don't have either myself (yet), but you can't go wrong with them.

    P.S. Saw a Sidewinder mouse in a shop a couple days back. Wondered what the designers were smoking.
     
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    My Acer 19" widescreen owns. Funk wut u herd!!!
     
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    The mouse and keyboard on my PC are pieces of crap. A keyboard that is over 5 years old and was $10 new and a $30 optical mouse (both the cheapest I could get). And yet they still are better than the stuff that come standard on a Mac because they were built for functionality, not style.

    When I push a key on a keyboard, I like knowing that I've pressed it. Which means I like to feel the key move. The keys on some Mac keyboards* move less than the keys on my laptop, which meant that I was sometimes unsure if I had pressed the keys or not.

    I can understand having less movement on a laptop if you want to save space, but not on a desktop machine. Yet the only keyboards I've seen where the keys don't move enough for my liking are the thin Mac keyboards designed for desktops.

    Actually it seems that Mac design philosophy consists of: If we have to chose between functionality and our ideas about style, go with style.

    *These keyboards are the ones I'm talking about.
     
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    i have a mac laptop, and the keyboard keys move about 3/4 as much as my G11 on my desktop (G11 is the G15 minus the flip up lcd). the only keyboard issue for OS X with it is when i plug in the G11, Logitech didn't make mac drivers. The advantage of a mac has diminished now that Vista has copied more of OS X's "style"
     
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    Yeah, the Apple ethos is a little bit "form over function". It seems to win hearts and minds, and sometimes results in a pretty usable product as well. But sometimes they do get in their own way.
     
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    to qoute my english professor "PC's are pimpable, however Macs, u open the panel and your warranty is now worth toilet paper...." Mr. D Miller, West Georgia Tech
     
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    i totally opened and took apart my mac laptop to the point where i would check a cpu fan... they still worked on it afterward on the warranty. i was pretty good about putting it back together again, but i did completely strip out a screw on the bottom.
     
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    I recently just bought a new-style MacBook Pro with the intention of reducing my ability to game on my home 'PC'. But tbh I can still play virtually anything I want on it anyway simply by installing windows through bootcamp.

    The thing to remember with apple is that hardware, and it's higher cost, is less to do with functionality and more to do with design and style. There is not a single laptop in existance that is as well built and fantastic looking as the new MacBooks. The Mac Pros, are again not marketed at people that are inclined to be dedicated gamers. Gamers want performance efficiency or 'bang for buck' as it's more commonly known, Macs don't offer that at all.

    Same with the iPhone and the iPods, they're exceptionally well made, slick and 'pretty' but the software on them isn't a patch on other phones and mp3 players. They're marketed at a lifestyle, not a function.

    The only issue i've had with my MacBook so far are Logitech mac drivers for OS X that I don't need because I play my games in Windows where it works fine. Everything else it's made much easier and more intuitive to use. I'm happy to accept that some people just don't get on with OS X, but to claim it has flaws that only exist through introducing gaming-centric hardware and requirements is folly.

    If you want to game then Windows is where it's at, no question. But Apple's hardware, albeit at a premium, is far superior in design and quality. And the best thing about OS X is it's stability and memory/power efficiency. Running OS X my macbook reports 4-5 hours battery life, running windows barely 2.
     
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    The new Sony's are 10x sexier than any Mac book tbh.
     
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    not so.

    apples hardware's design and quality are no different from that of PCs, and infact, its usually lower, just comes in a nicer box.

    ive read many a horror story about it,
    for example, the 'new mac smell' on mac pros? apparently its caused by the anti-dust spray burning off into benzene, a toxic chemical. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=2319

    the fact that it uses less power, isnt due to any kind of superiority, simply because the systems use less powerful hardware, and OS X is more dictatorial with its power use age, not something thats ideal for a rig where high performance is desired

    also OS X's stability, is, by and large, something that it inherited from BSD and Unix, and has little to do with its mac-ness

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    i would also make the case that its the worst system due to how dictatorial it is towards its users.

    people often gripe about the M$-monopoly, and how they are always trying ot force their crap on people, but really, how often are they successful? not often. M$ is the wanna-be dictator

    Apple is the real deal.

    for example, if you want to use Mac, you gotta have a Apple Computer, nothing else will work, theres no reason they should do this, all it accomplishes is isolating their userbase.

    you can install windows on a mac, you can install Linux on a mac
    you can install linux on a windows machine, but not OS X
    you can install windows on a linux machine, but not OS X

    so which OS is really less user friendly?
     
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    I believe the tying of OS X to the Mac platform works for them though - since it really is like, uh, selling a lifestyle... their market is willing to swallow that kind of thing. If they didn't do it fewer people would buy the hardware, and maybe that'd lose them more than the extra OS sales would make them. (If enough people started hacking OS X to run on non-Apple PCs, they might reconsider though - but it's not something I hear of people doing often, even though I know it's possible.)