AION updates and INFO thread for the puplic to see

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  1. Meemo
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    From wikipedia:
    Meaning later versions of GameGuard will still be running and causing problems. Even if it leaves my anti-virus and firewall alone, we are still talking about a program that decides what other unrelated programs are allowed to do (hijacking and blocking API calls).

    Are they using the same ones that I'm using ?
    For that matter, how do they determine that their anti-virus is better than another ?
    Exactly. Just like DRM the official justification for GameGuard being there doesn't hold up to scrutiny, nor do the results.

    And, just like DRM, it causes problems for the legit customer.
    Because those people complain, then keep paying for the game.

    So which scenario should I be looking at here:
    - NProtect know that GameGuard will never work, but they keep selling it because some companies will buy it. Meaning they know they only need to make it look like it's working.
    - NProtect think that GameGuard could actually work. Meaning they have never listened to a competent computer security expert, let alone hired one. Meaning they have no idea what they are doing, and they ignore all the evidence to the contrary.
    - Blocking the hacks and bots is just an excuse to let them install it for some other reason.
     
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    oh god stop using wiki NOT EVERYONE IN THE WORLD HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS YOU OR THE PERSON THAT PLACED THAT THERE.


    They ways around the problems.


    So stop spamming about gamegruad if you have a problem complain to NcSoft and not on here plz


    btw all the TYPE of guards on game FAIL no matter what ever MMO out there there hacks and botts so leave it at that
     
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    That's just too bad , cuz in fact in Korean Aion Online everyone is using [ Angels vs Devils ] as their faction race , live with it. That's my update for you in korean aion online.

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    its angels vs demons......not devils there only one devil,


    To start off with I know what everyone calling them 2nd I was Stating NcSoft wanted to to stay away from the hell vs heaven thing so i dont see why you are trying to fight about something

    befor you try to post random shit learn the Lore of the game
     
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    before you even reply maybe you should change your topic title and not be updates and info for the public to see , my point here is to update you outdated geek it's angels vs devils, that's how the korean are using these 2 terms for their factions fool lmao.

    Maybe change your topic title to " Aion updates and info according to the orginal LORE of the game. " L O L

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    Everyone ignored meemo's valid questions about installing rootkits onto your computer as a way to supposedly try and stop hackers.
     
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    fun fun fun :D

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  9. Meemo
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    So go find me a source that contradicts it.

    So ?
    Unless you can guarantee that I will not be having those problems, it is still an issue. Who here uses Google Chrome ?
    Apart from not installing the game, name one that doesn't break the EULA ?

    Answer these questions and I might:
    What would it take for you to install a game if you knew the game came bundled with spyware ?
    Where do you draw the line between spyware and programs like GameGuard ?

    That isn't likely to get Gameguard removed unless I get enough people also boycotting all games with it.

    Since the guards fail, why do you tolerate them when they cause problems ?
    Yes they all have hacks. But in my experience games without GameGuard have way less hacks than those with it, making their anti-hack methods much better. Mainly because they don't rely on something that doesn't work.

    When hacks showed up in Guild Wars and Eve (MMOS without a guard program) they were fixed within days at most. The really nasty ones were fixed within hours.

    When hacks appeared in Maple Story, they remained for weeks. Then Gameguard got updated and most of the hacks stopped for a week as people downloaded the new versions. Then the problem was back to what it was before as everyone got hold of the new version of the hack, which used the same method to hack the game, but was now updated so it could pretend to be the new version of GameGuard.

    Now lets compare the scale of the hacks. First Guild Wars:
    - A hack where you could put the guild hall button on your guild menu, then teleport to and from the guild hall and pre-searing. Meaning you could have items way above what you would need in the starter areas. Not much harm there.
    - A dupe exploit. This would of caused massive disruptions to the game economy, except ANET acted quickly. Within hours of people starting to abuse this exploit, ANET had blocked it and written a script to go through the server logs and ban anyone who had used it (thus removing the duped items). Well before the gold farmers started using it.

    Now lets look at the hacks on maple story:
    - Multiple invulnerability hacks. When one was finally closed, another would be found. And it took months for Nexon to close the first one.
    - Hacks to make you fly around rapidly for faster movement, and to prevent people clicking on you. If they can't click you, they can't report you for hacking.
    - Item vacs to pick up all the items you can on that map, despite them being out of range.
    - Making melee items hit enemies further away than ranged weapons can.
    All of which got so heavily used by gold farmers that when they actually got blocked, the in game value of items crashed to the point that most players could afford them without bought gold.

    Bots would also be a problem. But I suspect that monitoring server logs to detect botters (regardless of the bot they use) will be much more reliable than trying to block the bot on the client.
     
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    Who cares if people are calling it demons vs. angels. Should be more concerned with the amount of bots there's gonna be.
     
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    why u call her a devil they have names you know????
     
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    New Patch notes

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    http://www.areyouhellbound.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=9116


    Translations all done by the Hellbound Team
     
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    booo some the stuff is broken lol. Well i reposted with some fixes on the 1st page of my thread. if you look for new info plz check there 1st if not check the new pages
     
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    hmmm really now??? bc lets see the LORE came 4rm US/EU AION website so i can careless WHAT the Koreans call them to start off with the fact STILL is they arnt demons or angels they use to be one race tell the tower shattered and the race was split one living in dark other in the sun. THATS the reason the Elysea looks like they do and the Asmodae .


    the fact is they arnt devils or angel they both have wing neither are good or evil, befor you say im reading OLD lore im not since we have ppl that translate whats going on in the Korean site.
     
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    L O L i like this using in game Screenshot to reply , but someone doesn't even play the game yet and have so much words.
     
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    really how so am i wrong when yet hellbound and many other guilds on AION source that give us info plays AION ???

    btw great job in actly showing your a complete asshole ???


    and that SS and what you saying them dont really mean shit since half the stuff U think you know is wrong. as i stated all MY info comes frm the NCsoft NA/EU AION website and off AIONSOURCE that has ppl in the game and korean translaters
    yet the point is they arnt know as angels of devils SINCE they have names even if they look like that DOESNT mean they are or even if ppl call them THAT thats not there name. So what if the forums say that ??? whent he maker of AION and AIOn devs on AION SOurce still call them by there real names.

    So shows you are just a complete jackass
     
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