anyone with legal experience?

Though if you want real advice on this, go find yourself a lawyer. Preferably a sleazy one who can shake some money out of them.

 

http://www.freecellphonetracer.com/...=37&tid=&Submit.x=56&Submit.y=2&Submit=Search!

That is the information for "Dave" from the "Fraud department"
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Technical Contact :
Atlas Technology Group Inc.
mz5yg88d6xe@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: ACCOUNTS.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

That is the whois information for accounts.com
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"I ordered from this website, and they said most deliveries within an hour. However five days later, they still had not delivered.

They claimed to have done a partial delivery, but this turned out to be a lie. They claim to have 24/7 live customer support. You get emails all written in the same style, yet signed with a different name every time, though it is clear it is the same person emailing.

This group will string you along for days until you finally ask for a refund. Then the 'live 24/7' service dries up and you hear nothing.

Very clearly a SCAM, I am in the process of resolving through Paypal, but a long process that will take weeks if not months.

The website looks the part, they have plenty of testimonials so impressed with their speed, and service, so I guess they are faked as well. Looks good but get the fat scam rating from me. Only $122US but still, it is the principle of the matter.

Please spread the word, and thank god for ripoffreport, if only I had checked here first!

Warlock, Auckland, New Zealand"

That is a quote of a scam accusation against "Atlas Technology Group Inc.", however it is a different site he is accusing, which happens to be a domain "wowgold.com"

Now if you do a whois search for wowgold you get totally different contact and technical information, however the nameservers are the same as well as the IP location.

Finally, for the big bang, here is the whois information for "wowgold.com"

Administrative contact:
Technical contact:
Billing contact:
do-ob inc.
Domain Administrator
domains@bloop.com
35/F Central Plaza, 18 Harbour Road
Hong Kong, Hong Kong HK
Phone: +852.81207555


A fake address in Hong Kong, can anyone say scam?

 

yeah iono the guy said he already talked to blizzard sent an inquiry into the account etc. and said he possess the number that was called into reactivate the account, also he does know my IP and Internet ISP i dont really know how accesible it is to get to this type of stuff but i mean if it does go to court or something i dont wanna get blamed or take punishment for something i had no clue happened. i mean i appericate all your help i just dont wanna take any risk in what they say the biggest concern is the future govt jobs for me as i want to be a cop and will be doing 4 yrs active duty in the army in jan. thou i am very leary of the spelling, he also explained that while it does go against the EULA it is not illegal to sell accounts excuse me for my lack of knowledge all on the issues

 

Also i do close the account and the character is lost, if god forbid they are a legit buisness does that mean that i will get sued reguardless?

 

Getting IP and ISP is pretty easy. If I wanted to, I could get anyone's IP on the forums with the click of a button. Its that simple.

Now, as for the matter at hand, there is nothing you can be slammed on. Pretty much if they try to do something and get Blizzard involved they will face a counter lawsuit because of a gross violation of the EULA or w/e its called.

Its sort of like drugs out in Amsterdam, but in reverse. Its illegal to sell drugs in amsterdam (IIRC) but it is not illegal to use it and possibly buy it... or something. I think this point is not actually a good one but I like my analogy, so I'm keeping it there....

 

lol i see i just get nervous seeing these type of e-mails and like i said the guy called me on my cellphone which mad it seem kinda legit once im 100% sure nothing bad happens im bout to flame this guy on his cellphone

 

I just can't believe a company that profits from illegal activities is going to use legal means to settle this. Especially for such a tiny amount - lawyer and court fees would be far more expensive than anything they would get back.

Heck, "Dave" doesn't even give his last name. This is definitely a scam. But if you really want to settle your fears, go and talk to a real lawyer. It will cost you some money, but you will feel better.

This whole situation is also proof of the following advice to us all...

DON'T EVER BUY OR SELL GAME ACCOUNTS!!!

 

ahhh well thx i might for the information i might just have to do that im pretty sure it is a scam as i went back to the webiste and looked thru the selling account process and don't see contract or anything that makes me liable for this type of stuff

 

i've decided to e-mail the person named "dave" inqurying his last name, companies adress and proof of any contract i agreed thou which i dont believe i ever saw one or read thru which i believe would put me in void also if they really are suing me wouldn't they have to send me this type of stuff at my request anyways?

 

I don't know why you're even bothering, just IGNORE IT.

 

"E-mail i sent to "Dave" I would like your last name and and contact information to verify who u are, also proof of an written agreement of selling the account to you( i sold you the account i know i just like the see the written agreement if any), in addition i would also like your companies address not their PO BOX. Please also send any information you believe relevant, i am entitled to this information if this ever could turn out to be a possible lawsuit previous to discovery so do not hide behind that. i am still planning on returning the account but i would like this information before i do.

 

Panacea i dont want to take any chances, my family has had enuf trouble with me and if i get into a lawsuit with a company my parents will be very angry and again Gov't Jobs are my future any flaggs that lead to me not getting a gov't job would ruin my potential career

 

It is so obviously a scam that I am laughing at how many posts are in this thread.

-Grammar
-Lack of definitive information
-The fact that they, a company who illegally purchases game accounts, would contact the game developers? WTF LOL!!!! Not including the fact that you sold a private server account! That made me chuckle just because.

All reason's this is fake, and there are more but I wanted to keep this short.

Don't go waste you're money for a lawyer, change your credit card, and pay pal shit, report the site to blizzard and have a beer. Simple huh? Oh, and don't sell anymore game accounts either.

Lastly, you are an idiot. Use your brain next time.

 

Ok, fine.

But rather than emailing him, how about you phone a free legal helpline, and tell them the situation, they will advise you on what to do.

But they're going to say the same thing we've all said.

 

Maybe if you weren't such a pot head, you wouldn't be so ignorant to the situation. Excessive use of that shit will fuck you up after a while.

 

hahah thanks it wasn't a free server account, but i mean just for my defense in selling the account? whats wrong with wanting to make a little money off something i quit a year ago and dont plan on going back 2

 

EULA violation you agreed to. Simple as that. They are losing potential profits from from you selling an account with an already leveled character.

 

He is lying. So contact Blizzard and start an inquiry yourself.

Then why hasn't he given that number to you ?
Because he doesn't actually have it.

He got the IP address from when you accessed their website, and finding the ISP from an IP address is easy.

It will cost them more to file the lawsuit than they will get from you. Especially if you fight it.

They are lying to you. Call their bluff.

Contact Blizzard. Tell Blizzard everything.

Blizzard, and only Blizzard, can close the account. So if you want to close it, they are who you need to talk to.

Ask for them to prove that they are legit. As in a physical street address, not a PO box.

Let me guess, you gave them your cellphone number when you sold the account.

Next time they call you, tell them that you are recording the call. Listen to them trying to BS their way out of it. Then tell them that until you can confirm that the laws against recording calls that they refer to exist, you will not communicate with them in any means that is not recorded.

Ask for them to prove that they are legit. As in a physical street address (not a PO box) and some proof they are registered as a business.

You gave them your cellphone number when you sold the account, didn't you ?

Contact the police about this, since they are trying to defraud you over the phone. Thus leaving more records.

Why aren't you listening to our advice about talking to someone other than this company ?

Forget about trying to resolve it through this 'company', as they know how to lie and intimidate you. Contact:
- Blizzard
- Paypal (in case they do try something here)
- Your credit card company
- A lawyer
- The police, to find out who you contact to file a fraud complaint against this company.

 

The worst Blizzard can do to you for breaking the EULA is prevent you from playing WoW.

I will not give you any more advise until you show that you are following the advise I have already given.

 

i do wanna say thank you to everyone who has given me advice and now pretty sure it is a scam i did check with a lawyer online meemo and called my lawyer buddy who will be looking at my situation tonight once i do find out its a scam i'm about to flame that guy on the cellphone also afterwords i will notifty blizzard and have the account closed for good and tell them everything i have no intentions of going back to WoW.