Looking to upgrade

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  1. Kyoji
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    Looking for advice on an upgrade for my PC. Probably looking to upgrade my CPU, Motherboard, Graphics Card, Ram, SSD and a hard drive.

    For price lets say about $1200 excluding the GPU cost. I am sure @EniGmA1987 can help.

    I want something that will last for a bit so I would rather pay more than less for quality.

    Also I already have a 238GB Samsung Pro Series SSD. So I could wait to upgrade the SSD. I have room on it now.
     
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    What do you have now?
     
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    New Skylake CPU I7-6700K and i5-6500k coming out August 5th. Id wait for them befor upgrading.
    They will use socket 1151.
    Graphics - EVGA 980 ti - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487142
    Mobo - Asus when new skylake is out.
    Cooler Master V750 – Compact 750W 80 PLUS Gold PSU with Modular Molex
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171094

    Samsung 850 EVO SSD as your gaming drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W02DV8166

    CPU Cooler - DEEPCOOL Gamer Storm CAPTAIN 240 CPU Liquid Cooler
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856022

    Reuse your current DDR.
     
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    May want to wait for the new Intel cpus in Sept.ish up to you though I couldn't tell you what newer stuff would give you a significant enough upgrade to be worth buying at the moment. Your high end and a lot of times high end improvement are only noticeable in benchmarks by a few percentage points.
     
  6. EniGmA1987
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    Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132516
    USB3.1 is the newest, latest and greatest, just came out USB connection spec. Unfortunately the board doesnt have USB type-C still, but it supports the 3.1 spec which is the best of the new USB. You can always get an add-in card later down the road that has type-C connectors on it if you want them. M.2 and Sata-Express were supposed to be the greatest be-all SSD connector for years to come, but so far seem nothing more than gimmicks. Maybe something will come out for them and then the compatibility will be useful, so better to have them.
    Board also uses DDR4 and has compatibility up to DDR-3300 speeds, so if you ever want to upgrade your memory to higher speed stuff in the next 5 years you will be set. 8 RAM slots means you can have a ton of memory too if you ever want to (64GB is max supported officially, but you may be able to have more unofficially).
    SUPPOSEDLY these Asus boards support NVME over M.2, which is supposed to be the newest big thing for SSDs. Cant seem to confirm this myself because there is still so very little proper and easy to find info out on NVME support for just about anything.

    CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402
    This uses the latest high end Intel core and it will not be replaced until 2017. 6 cores plus hyper threading means you will have enough cores to do anything with how gaming goes for the lifetime of the computer, and it is unlocked so you can overclock for higher core speed to satisfy low threadcount games that just want pure core speed. This has enough PCI-E lanes to run 2-3 GPUs well enough and wont sacrifice I/O lanes when using a lot of GPUs.

    Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
    This will keep you running cooler than stock and give you some OC headroom. Wont get you past 4.5Ghz, but should get you into the low 4GHz range at least which is good for a cheap cooler like this

    RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226594
    16GB of RAM is still plenty, and using 4GB sticks means you take advantage of quad channel right away for huge bandwidth. Good timings make these nice DDR4 stick. The motherboard has 8 RAM slots so you can always buy another of these sets to get up to 32GB of RAM without having to dump any sticks.

    SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148949
    Use your Samsung Pro for the OS and this one for games so you dont have to worry about space nearly as much. Good cheap drive. Crucial wasnt great in the past but everyone seems to be saying very good things about these newer drive series. Or dont get another SSD and save some money, up to you.

    Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182084
    Platinum rated for top efficiency means a bit lower power bill, and 750 watts means you can run an overclocked CPU and dual GPUs fine.

    Re-use your current case as the MB is ATX form factor and so is the PSU. It should all fit fine.


    Total is $1,189.94 which fits in your budget. You can probably buy the CPU from Microcenter and save $50-100 or so as they tend to sell processors at a loss to get business on other hardware. This hardware should keep you going for a very long time and remain relevant for years.
     
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    So wait till August 5th or upgrade? I don't need it immediately, but not sure how much better it will be or how long I will have to wait after the 5th to build.
     
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    Here is a leaked review of new Skylake CPUs.
    http://www.eteknix.com/intel-skylake-i7-6700k-performance-figures-leaked/

    Interms of FPS, there gonna be 1-3 fps difference between 5820k and 6700k.
    6700k will be abit cheaper tho. But if you manage to find 5820k on sale, id go with Enigmas cpu/mobo.
     
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    Some rumors say 6700K will be $400+ though which makes the 5820K cheaper, faster, and better suited for multi GPU or high memory situations. Might be best to wait and see if things really are only a month away
    Not sure I trust anything in that article on eteknix though
     
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    It is on sale for $300 at Microcenter but only for pickup. I am too far away sadly.
     
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    From what I could find general performance for the first generation of Skylake is not that much better then the final generation of haswell/broadwell. They will let you use DDR4 memory though if that's something you want to move up to. First generation MOBOs usually are not much to write home about either.
    But all that is based on leaked info nobody has had a proper run at Skylake yet so who knows. That it can run both DDR3 and DDR4 is about the only sure thing anybody really knows yet.
     
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    MicroCenter in Cincinnati Kyoji? If you send me with money I could pick it up for you, one of the days I head over to the VA. Or hell get it half way for you.
     
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    New rumor for the day is that Intel will show them at Gamescon in a month and they will be available shortly after.
     
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    Apparently my internal HD may be failing. Need a new data storage unit. Any ideas?
     
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    samsung evo SSD
     
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    If you have Amazon Prime, try and hold out till the 15th and see if you can get a great deal on a drive.
    In the mean time, if you have a way to back up any data you need you should do that.


    When you say your internal HD is failing, I assume you mean a 2nd drive that is a larger sized HDD? Or do you mean the SSD you have is failing?



    For new SSDs, these are the 3 I would pick from in order of my preference:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G31E2008
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W02DV8166
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148949

    I have very little preference on storage hard drive brands, as all brands seem to fail often and randomly. However my two longest running drives have been Western Digital Blacks:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236624
    The one thing I will never do though is buy a WD green, as I have never had one last more than a year (been through 6). Their power saving firmware design is just terrible for reliability.
     
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    Just a rumor so far but seems like somebody in china got a Sky lake i7 early and managed to overclock it to 5.2 on air cooling. If that kind of thing affects your buying decisions.
    new bit at about 1 min in video
     
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    leaks also said Broadwell got to 5GHz+ easily, and so did Haswell, and so on and so forth. None of those proved true so I doubt this one will be an "easy 5.2GHz" either.