I've been considering upgrading my current PC, but I keep giving up on the idea because I am lazy as fuck. So now I'm starting to think I should just buy an entirely new system, so I'd like to hear the people's opinion on this setup: Processor: Intel Core i7-4790K, 4 GHz - Devils Canyon CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D14 Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 1 Memory: Kingston HyperX Beast Quad Channel DDR3-2400 - 32GB (4x8GB) Graphics: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Strix - 6GB GDDR5 SSD (OS): Samsung 850 PRO SSD - 256GB SSD (Games): Samsung 840 EVO SSD - 1TB Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST (Does anybody actually give a fuck about these anymore? ) Case: Fractal Design Define R4 - Titanium Grey PSU: Corsair RM1000 (Modular) - 80plus Gold - 1000W PSU
That would be an insane computer for sure. Id think it will last you this entire console generation no problem. What I do for an optical drive is just use a USB attached external drive. I use it so little that I only dig it out of storage once or twice a year, but it does come in handy those couple times. I dont have a spare SATA port on my motherboard due to so many SSD and HDD, so I cant put one inside the tower anyway. The external drives are pretty much the same price and optical disk transfer speed is slower than USB or SATA, so the connection wont limit you at all, especially if you get a USB3 version.
Yeah, I considered an external solution. It would also let me use it for my other computers, including my HTPC which doesn't have a drive.
Processor: Intel Core i7-4790K, 4 GHz - Devils Canyon CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D14 Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 1 Memory: Kingston HyperX Beast Quad Channel DDR3-2400 - 32GB (4x8GB) Graphics: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Strix - 6GB GDDR5 SSD (OS): Samsung 850 PRO SSD - 256GB SSD (Games): Samsung 840 EVO SSD - 1TB Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST (Does anybody actually give a fuck about these anymore? ) Case: Fractal Design Define R4 - Titanium Grey PSU: Corsair RM1000 (Modular) - 80plus Gold - 1000W PSU cpu/mobo, excellent cooler, see case below ram, i have found no performance gains from 1600mhz to 2600mhz, save the money and just get 1600 like i did last week, go for some decent timings / low voltage graphics, you really dont need 6gb unless your running 3-4 cards SLI running some resolutions higher then 4k (eyefinity/nvidia surround like i do) 3gb will be plenty, spend the extra cash on getting a 780ti SDD, are fine, really just get whatever you can score a deal on, the difference between some 450mb/s and 550 mb/s i feel is unnoticeable. crucial MX100 is great and goes on sale all the time. PSU, seems overkill for a PC with only 1x graphics card, id say go for a 750watt platinum Case, i have a friend with this case, and he hates it, doesnt keep things that cool, overall, not recommended to spent such a price on all this gear, only to cheap out on the case. MY recommendation is to run Silverstone RV03B, which is one of the best air cooled cases available. Combined with the NH-D14, it will operate fantastically. Any of the Silverstone cases that right a 90* turned motherboard, (so its vertical) and 180mm fans across the bottom, will be fantastic (i love my FT02 on one of my PC's)
Well, I had considered getting a second graphics card relatively shortly after, for SLI, hence the 1000 watt PSU. The problem with the 780 TI is that it's at least $100 more than the Strix 6GB version here. But perhaps I should "downgrade" to the 3GB 780, and just get a second card quicker. I don't like the looks of the RV03B. I looked into the FD Define R4, and think I might go for the FD Define XL R2 instead. It's been getting pretty decent reviews. As for ram. Well, 32GB @ 2400mhz is only fractionally more expensive than the 1600mhz for whatever reason, so is there any other reason than price for going for the 1600'ers?
For that kind of a budget, I'd recommend going for a Haswell-E processor with a 2011-v3 socket motherboard.
Yeah, id go for the 2nd card sooner. To bad about not liking the silverstone case, works wonders for air cooling. Im afraid i havent done much research beyond the vertical mobo cases for air cooling. Having said that, maybe an allinone liquid cooler will be superior to the NH-D14 in the fractual case. As far as the ram, yeah, just cheaper, same performance. lastly, i wasnt to impressed with X99, DDR4 is not better then DDR3 yet (omfg such bad timings) and is quite a bit more expensive. Also, no games utilize 6-8 cores yet, most are still only using 2, better to have 4 really fast cores then 6/8 sorta fast ones.
These are still launch day kits, so DDR4 is not yet impressive, although timings don't really matter for games that much, plus DDR4 starts at 2400Mhz, which is pretty sweet for launch day. As far as the cores go, the 4970k costs about 330(ish) while the 5820k costs 380(ish), so for 50 more bucks, you get an additional 2 cores, plus a much more reliable/enthusiast/feature-packed platform (x99). Most games don't utilize a lot of cores yeah, but that's for now. The 2011-v3 socket is made to last, the last enthusiast socket (2011) lasted for 3 years now and the processors were vastly superior to the consumer grade processors as far as performance, although the chipset x79 was a bit lacking. Not to mention that 3,3ghz isn't really "sorta" fast and lets not forget that these processors are unlocked for easy overclocking. Also, the 5820k has 28 pci-3 lanes while the 4790k only has 16, which is better for sli/crossfire configurations. Also, quad channel memory, and a whopping 12 freaking threads. The only downside to the x99 platform is DDR4 being in very early stages, but honestly for launch-day kits, the 3000mhz models are pretty impressive even though very expensive.
DDR3-2400 is faster than DDR4-2400 though, and DDR3 scales all the way to 3000MHz. So no reason to own DDR4 right now unless you really want to move to the X99 platform. Which is a too expensive platform IMO. If you go with the low end processor you get 28 PCI-E lanes, which is more than the mainstream 1150 platform, but the lanes dont actually help very much. For multi-GPU systems you can still only get x8 + x8 lanes, so no performance difference there. The place the extra lanes will help is if you get a couple high end M.2 solid state drives, since those run through x4 PCI-E lanes. Unless you care about being able to use those drives to their full potential and think spending a few hundred extra Dollars for the capability then the platform isnt worth it. Memory is slower and more expensive and the extra cores wont help for the lifetime of the system. Games will still play equally well on a 4 core, 8 thread Haswell processor as they will on a 6 core, 12 thread Haswell. At those points it will come down to the GPUs in games, which have the same performance between both platforms. I wouldn't consider the 2011-3 platform until Intel releases it's Broadwell-E chips and DDR4 has reached decent speed levels, which is still a couple years out.
It'll be ages before any of those things become available here anyway, so that's out of the question regardless. What about monitors? Any recommendations there? I could use a new one, and possibly even two. I just don't know if I should go for a 1440p 27", or just stick with 1080p. My problem is I can't figure out if I think 27" would be too big for me. I already think my 1920x1200 24" is sufficiently dimensioned, and 1440p monitors are still somewhat expensive, especially if I were to buy two of them. Maybe I should just wait for a decently priced G-sync monitor. That ROG SWIFT looks delicious.
Yes the platform is expensive, but if you're even considering the x99 platform, that means you're well over the 1500 dollar mark, which for most people is still pretty expensive. Those pci-e lanes do come in handy if you're going for multiple GPU configurations (threeway/fourway), I don't see why you would want to get an M.2 SSD when you could just get a couple SATA 3 SSDs and raid 0 them if speed is your main concern. As far as memory, yes it's expensive and yes it's not yet worth it, BUT these things launched literally yesterday, DDR2 was better and cheaper when DDR3 first came out just because of the fact that there is/was more demand so there is/was more supply. I doubt it's even going to be 1 year before the mainstream DDR4 kits will be floating around 3200-3600Mhz. As far as games go, yeah a processor with 6-8 cores isn't going to make much of a difference right now, but if you're even in the slightest interested in video rendering or general CPU intense workloads, the haswell-e processors destroy all competition. As far as recommending it, well it's the best thing on the market right now, and for people with a bigger budget I think it's a no-brainer. If anybody is looking to get a 2k pc right now, x99 is the way to go.
I went from 24 inch to 27 inch last year and absolutely love it! Trust me, its worth it. Id go for Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q if you can afford it.
I might go for it, but I'd probably have to wait a little while, since the system I'm buying is already insanely expensive.
I went with this: Processor: Intel Core i7-4790K, 4 GHz - Devils Canyon CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 1 Memory: Kingston HyperX Beast Quad Channel DDR3-1600 - 32GB (4x8GB) Graphics 1: Asus GeForce GTX 780 - 3GB GDDR5 Graphics 2: Asus GeForce GTX 780 - 3GB GDDR5 SSD (OS): Samsung EVO PRO SSD - 250GB SSD (Games): Samsung 840 EVO SSD - 1TB Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST Case: CM Storm Trooper PSU: Corsair RM1000 (Modular) - 80plus Gold - 1000W PSU Now I just need to save a month or two, and get myself an Asus ROG SWIFT to go with it.