New Rig, a little help needed.

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  1. Evilmaran
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    Graphics:
    EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW+ 4GB w/Backplate €459,-
    (Retail, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, SLI)

    RAM:
    G.Skill 16 GB DDR3-1600 Kit €84,90
    (F3-1600C9D-16GSR, Sniper-Serie, XMP)

    CPU:
    Intel® Core™ i5-3570K (Boxed, FC-LGA4, "Ivy Bridge") € 207,90

    Case:
    MS-TECH CA-0300 Raptor NG € 61,90
    (USB 3.0)

    BR-writer:
    ASUS BC-12B1ST €69,90 12x BR speed 16x DVD speed

    HDD:
    2x Seagate ST2000DM001 (SATA 600, Barracuda 7200.14) 2TB €82,90

    SSD:
    Samsung MZ-7PD128BW
    (Bulk, SATA 600, 840 Pro Serie, MLC-Chips, Trim) 128GB €137,90

    Cooling:
    Scythe Mugen 3 Rev.B PCGH-Edition (SCMG-3PCGH, 2x 3-pin-aansluiting) €47,99

    MOBO:
    ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (RAID, Gb-LAN, Sound, ATX) €204,90

    PSU:
    Corsair HX850 (6x PCIe, Kabel-Management) €167,90


    Keyboard:
    unknown, will do a shopping trip soon to check some options and try some out.

    Muis:
    Cyborg RAT 7 99,99€
     
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    700W will be just fine with 1 gfx card. Also, if you are just gaming then save some $ and get a 3570k instead of 3770k.

    My system pulls ~300w full load and I have a similar system but with a 570 gtx.
     
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    i thought the 3770k would be better since i do loads of stuff at the same time. When gaming i have about 7-10 programs running (which include TS, Vent, Spotify, livestream, 20-40 tabs in chrome etc).

    thanks for the input on the RAM and mobo, and think ill go for 850W PSU then.

    updated list in first post.
     
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    Programs on the background = ram. I have way more programs running then what you got and my 3570k is not even bothered by that =]
    The 3770K is a better processors for applications that are compiled around/able to use its advanced features - mainly Hyperthreading.
    Trust us, if you don't know what 3770k is good for, then you don't need it =]
    3570k is a beast and will suffice all your needs.
     
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    Also, if you're willing to throw 300$ at a keyboard(which i would recommend not to unless you absolutely love that keyboard), why not get evga gtx 680 ftw and if nvidia comes out with their next 700 series gpus in the next 3 month, do a step up from eevga.
    http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/
     
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    ^^^ What Doxy said. Love the 670 4 gb edition but don't waste that kind of money on the strike keyboard.... unless you have tried it hands on and it is worlds above everything on the market. Spend the extra cash on a 680 4Gb if 4gb is what you want. Get yourself a nice mechanical keyboard from DAS, Filco, cooler master...... I have a K90 and while I love the keyboard I haven't used the "G keys" at all. Also can't go wrong with the 3570K, if you're doing rendering and that sort of thing then go with the 3770k but gaming and everyday use will not tax the 3570k.
     
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    I have Razer lycosa keyboard and after few years it still performs like new.
    So id pick Razer.
     
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    Lucky. Every razor product I have owned has died between 2-3 years, my Lycosa just died a few months ago. I loved it while I had it, but I moved to a Microsoft Sidewinder x4. It had the features I needed and a cheap cost.
    If I was buying a keyboard to last and money was no object then I would have went with a mechanical keyboard that had backlit keys. Probably with Cherry Red switches.
     
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    yeh but those are harder to find Enigma, the ones i listed dont have backlit keys, which i would really like.

    and the razer one has Cherry browns, or blues depending on which model.

    from what ive read on the webz, i really think the reds would be best for me, followed by brown then blue i guess, but hard to find a keyboard that has it all.

    i'd like the LED touchscreen thingy from the STRIKE 7, the macro function freedom the razer offers, combined with slick looks matte finish and awesome backlighting which i can customize for my personal taste and feel. now please tell me you can get me one of those :p

    if not, well guess its gonna be corsair or razer for me then, now just to see if ill keep my nostromo or switch fully to keyboard again, which will be hard...
     
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    Cooler Master storm quickfire tk mechanical. Different MX switch options with backlights. Blue switches = blue back light, red switch=red backlight, brown switch= white backlight.
     
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    hmm the CM Storm looks like an interesting keyboard indeed. Ill have to think this over and take a trip to town to test a couple of these boards...

    hardware wise, is there away to keep this power while going a little cheaper?
     
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    -Cheaper keyboard (barebones mechanical)
    -Cheaper Mem (should be able to get 16gb of 1600mhz RAM for less 100 euro. You could likely find cheaper than what I linked)
    -gtx 670 w/ support for changing voltage (can equal performance of stock 680. Can't get one with 4gb VRAM afaik. I can't seem to find this card right now. I could have sworn there was ahawk edition 670 but I can't find it)
    -Smaller SSD (put main game or two +OS on it and everything else on HDD. Maybe a 180 Gb SSD? Should suffice. 128 GB would be pushing it)
    -CPU air cooler (Can get pretty close to the performance of the all-in-one liquid coolers. Also is equal to or better than a noctua NHD14/ regular H100. Corsair link software is actually pretty awful and IMO will just add more bloat to your system with no real benefit )
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    updated first post with new list, chopped here and there to get some cheaper items in, changed cooling, case, ssd, Mem and GPU.

    i reckon this GTX670 will last me for at least 2+ years, after which i can just replace it when i feel like it.
     
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    Maybe this case instead? I'm personally more into a cleaner aesthetic and it is also a good quality case that should last you many builds if you like.

    Also make sure the memory you are getting is low profile memory if you are going with a tower cooler like that. There can often be clearance issues with high profile memory (what I posted and a lot of G.Skill stuff).
     
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    A Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO would be a great cooler for a cheaper price. THe only recommendations I ever put out for a heatsink are either that or a top end Corsair or Antec closed loop water cooling system.

    GTX 670 is a perfect GPU and will handle anything you play. It performs right about the same as the 680 anyway for a much cheaper price.

    The PSU also seems very expensive. Look and see if you can get a Rosewill CAPSTONE-750 instead, it is a better PSU and much cheaper in cost.

    Do you need multiple 2TB hard drives? Most people I know can store anything they can possible imagine on one 2TB drive. I know no one on this forum is "most people" but just something to think about. Personally I have over 16TB of storage with most of it full.

    The mouse is also pretty expensive. If you want the configuration options then by all means buy it, but there are plenty of other mice out there just as good for a cheaper price.
     
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    im not really educated on how to spot the difference in RAM, so i have no clue i know as much as CL9 is better then CL10 but why i have no idea... but 1600Mhz is like normal right? or should i aim for higher or lower? would i notice the difference in CL9 or in CL 10?

    and thats a nice case, i like it, ill put it on the list :D, only clicked the one i put on earlier cuz it was cheap and the cooler fit in there was one of the first i found.

    also im checking most stuff on http://www.alternate.nl (i know you guys dont speak my language but chrome auto translate does a good enough job)cuz i get some discount there, cuz of connections :p

    yes i do need multiple HDD, and i think 4TB will be full pretty fast, im an avid downloader, and my movie collection is quite extensive, currently 3.5TB already, of which ~1.5TB will be transferred to the new drives.

    currently using the g500 and im very content with the performance, but a little less content with the way it fits in my hand, so i was looking for a more ergonomic mouse or customizable mouse, hence the RAT.

    how about this PSU: http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Aerocool/Strike-X_800W/883284/ ?
    or this: http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Corsair/GS800/1019090/ ?

    decided not to opt for Bluray, i thought long on that, but i dont burn stuff, so the occasional dvd i burn is for back up reasons,
     
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    1600 MHz is perfectly fine right now. I haven't heard of very significant gains being made by opting for faster speed RAM or overclocking. I'm just talking about the physical size of the RAM and clearance issues. If you look up corsair low profile RAM you can see what I mean between different sizes.