Thank you Enigma!!

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  1. Ani
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  2. EniGmA1987
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    Such a beast of a computer. I think Ani now wins on who has the best one
     
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    pretty dope set up for sure!!! Enjoy man
     
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    Pretty beast computer but why didnt you just wait until Ivy bridge comes out? their rumored to come out around 04-08-2012.
     
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    because even the 2500k i have is way more then enough of a CPU

    so that CPU is a MONSTER of a CPU ... it will be fine for many many years
     
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    Because that processor he got is better than Ivy Bridge:

    SB-E = enthusiast platform with lots of cores and thread + high speed and lots of PCI-E lanes. Also better power delivery allowing for higher overclocks and better power efficiency. It is the top end platform right now and will be even though Ivy Bridge launch, only to become the 2nd best platform in a whole year from now at the launch of IB-E. Also comes with quad channel RAM and 8 RAM slots giving a max capability of 64GB of RAM

    IB = midrange platform with 4 core processor only to start and only enough lanes to run a single GPU at full 16x lanes. Also no quad channel RAM and only 4 RAM slots. While Ivy Bridge will see minor IPC improvements, it is primarily just a die shrink of the Sandy Bridge processor. Its one advantage is 1st gen 3D, Tri-gate transistors. Which will primarily result in lower power consumption. But people should know by now you probably dont want to be first to get a brand new technology from Intel, there will just be a recall from a serious bug 3-8 months down the road.





    This processor will be powerful enough for years to come. At a minimum it will keep him gaming at high performance range until 2015 when the P1274, 10nm CPU comes out. Probably much longer based on current progression of gaming technology and requirements. Id go so far as to say even a 2500k might be plenty fine for high end gaming from now till 2015.






    While no one except Intel know exactly how this new transistor will affect the processor and overclocking, my theory on the matter is that it will actually increase overclock headroom substantially. This is because the 3D transistor will allow much more current to be pushed through. With higher power draw capacity comes better stability at higher speeds that were previously not possible. However, I also theorize that this new technology will also cause significantly more damage to CPUs and overclocker's will not see the damage they are causing until it is too late a couple years down the line. Current is a major factor in the degradation of any computer chip. I have been able to kill RAM in 2-3 months because of putting too much current through. What do you think will happen to the CPU when you raise its voltage and current it gets, when it already have the ability to draw much more current? You will think "oh wow this CPU can go so fast!" only to have it die months later because the amount of current being drawn through the CPU ripped it apart inside. We cannot follow the same rules of safe voltage ranges at certain process nodes with the coming of this new technology. It is only through trial and error that we will be able to know just how much these can truly be pushed, and many people will lose CPUs during that time.
     
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    wait... so all that, and then you went with a 560 Ti? Dafuq....
     
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    Was wondering the same but I now see it has (x2) on the side. So yeah, it makes sense now. Thats a gnarly set up, grats Ani.
     
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    Dual 7970's IMO!!
     
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    ^^ lol. Dual 560Ti's will handle everything for years to come though, and are significantly cheaper than each step up from there. It really is the best price/performance point right now. Besides, two 580's or 7970's would have added $600-800 to the cost for an improvement that wont event be seen for years. By then if he wants to upgrade there will be way better GPUs on the market anyway. Sure they arent the greatest cards on the market, but it is what fits in Ani's budget, makes the most sense on future considerations, and can smash through anything at max graphics still.

    The platform itself is the latest and greatest because it is much more difficult to change out a processor years down the road as you would need a new MB, new RAM, and a new CPU for it. The graphics on the other hand just require a GPU upgrade. And this platform has PCI-E 3.0 already so he is set there if the GPU is ever upgraded. It also has SATA6 and USB3 so he has plenty of modern connectivity as they become more mainstream in coming years.




    The reasoning on the motherboard is that the Sabertooth line is all about stability. It has some of the most advanced but well tested power delivery, heatsinks on just about everything, temperature sensors to alter you to issues, higher grade components than most MBs, and much more rigorous quality control testing than any other motherboard. It is also warranted for 5 years and usually gets a priority RMA if there is an issue. It is a motherboard that is designed to last for the long haul.

    The CPU was chosen because it is the cheapest CPU on that platform, but additionally because it is so powerful. Nothing comes close to it right now, which will mean you have the performance you need for a long time, making an upgrade unneeded down the road.


    So those were my reasoning's in choosing the components.
    Thoughts on what you think should have been done differently?
     
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    I think value for dollar is about as high as it gets with 560ti. I bet two of them are going to really rock.
     
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    Enigma keeps talking in years. Must be from the future.
     
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    If he's from the future, I want some stock tips, and what interest rates are going to do.

    Kthx.
     
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    well, we all know what interest rates are going to be... but thats another story.
     
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    since enigma is from the future ... can i drive your Maserati you bought?

    and yeah 560 TI I have runs everything ... 2 of them is beast
     
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    I've seen bench tests and videos of dually 560's. Looked like a pretty slick system. Ive got a 550 and a 560... time for an upgrade?
     
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    Enigma will enjoy this:

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  18. EniGmA1987
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    I did lmao in RL reading that.
     
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    .... wh......wat?
     
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    I've baked my 8800gt after it stopped working, and it worked afterwords (soldering issues).. for another month or so.

    But cutting stuff ? Seriously ? /sigh