SSD?

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  1. bishop
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    I have been thinking about getting an SSD but I cant find a decently reliable one that has 500+ xfer rates for a decent price. Does such a thing exist?
     
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    btw im looking for a 240-256 gb ssd
     
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    Why do you want 500MB/s transfer rates? Do you specifically need high sequential speeds?

    sequential transfers mean very little for normal use. They really only come into play when transferring files around larger than a couple hundred MB. Windows has the majority of file transfers in the 4KB range. Games are between 4KB and 512KB. A SSD's speed does not come from sequential speed at all, but a combination of very low access times and very fast 4KB speeds, exactly what a mechanical drive is weakest in.


    I always recommend Samsung. They new 830 series comes out soon and looks incredibly good. But the 470 is still really nice. The Intel 320 series is pretty good too, and the Crucial M4 is a good drive.
     
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    BTW, I have used 11 Samsung based drives already. As well as a single JMicron drive (first gen SSD), an Indilinx, an Intel, and a Sandforce 1 drive.

    Out of all of them, I have had the JMicron die and a single Samsung die. The Samsung drives are split in generations. I have used 6 first gen Samsung's, and 5 2nd gen Samsung drives. The single failure was in a first gen OCZ Samsung based drive.

    Speed wise, the JMicron was by far the slowest, as all first gen solid state drives were. It died due to unstable power from the wall. Indilinx is noticeably slower than my other drives but still fairly fast. And I cant tell a difference between the Samsung drives, the Intel drive, and the Sandforce 1 drive unless I run a benchmark.

    So for normal use in a computer, you will be fine with any of the latest drives. it just comes down to reliability and cost. I would look between Samsung 470, Crucial M4, and Intel 320. Any of those will be fine. Cost would be the main deciding point between those. If you REALLY need specifically high sequential speeds then go with the M4. Otherwise they will all perform about the same to the naked eye.

    Id say you probably want to rule out Intel due to its price. So that leaves these two:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147126
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443
     
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    definitely forgot about this thread.

    interesting to know that the high sequential speeds arent a big deal. im definitely looking for a fast reliable sata 3 drive. forgot to mention that. I do kinda want it to be fairly future proof? i would assume it would make a pretty substantial difference?
     
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    Only for sequential speeds, and those dont really matter. SATA is supposed to always be backwards compatible, so you can even use a SATA1 in a SATA3 port and be fine. Even then best SSDs dont break the SATA1 barrier in random speeds yet. The only thing is that a native SATA3 drive might get a tiny bit extra performance from being used in a SATA3 port as opposed to a SATA2 in a SATA3

    But either way, the Crucial M4 is a very good drive and is SATA3 so you could just go with that. Its the best all around drive anyway. lol
     
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    interesting. very good to know :)

    thanks as always enigma, youre the bomb
     
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    Sale just started on several SSDs for email subscribers to Newegg. You sure those aren't using your specific promo code Enigma?

    I think I'm gonna get the Kingston myself, though probably next week.
     
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    I think Blackice should go EAD vs SSD ... but thats my limited tech knowledge opinion


    Gru
     
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    I dont think its with a specific promo code, when I click the link for the 256GB drive it is $330 whether I am at home or at work clicking on the link.
    EDIT: also no promo code was listed in my email.



    Kingston uses Sandforce controller, you dont want that.
     
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    It's either that or Samsung 830 and I'm ordering next week. The Kingston HyperX technology also does actually support Windows TRIM, which is one roadblock out of the way for Sandforce.

    The Crucial M4 supposedly disagrees with Sandy Bridge which is somewhere I'm not willing to go.

    I'm ordering next week, and the Samsung 830 should be released that week as well. Of course the Samsung will also be $70 more...

    In this test spec the Samsung 830 blew the doors off of everything in file copy, but the Kingston HyperX did at least incrementally better in most categories.

    I literally can't find any info anywhere on the actual Kingston HyperX SSD version of the product having problems that weren't just regular issues associated with all SSDs in general to date.

    Gruune, is that Céramique or are you just happy to see me? :)
     
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    What's a good sub-100GB (maybe 60GB) SSD? I was looking at the OCZ Agility 3, and it appears pretty decent.

    I'm looking to install a few games on there and that's it.
     
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    Rubius i would put your OS on there if i were you, i mean thats where youre going to see the best performance increase. in game you wont notice it all THAT much
     
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    Deadend's suggestion.