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I assumed as much, and yes for half the price its a good investment for the low/mid range consumer, which is completely fine.

I had just never heard of the 600D so I was just asking. ; )

 

I only buy full cases. :3

 

If I had my choice a full case is definitely the only way to go, but to my despair I have been stuck with two mids. Though myself I am a Lian-li person

 

Can you WC that case? Doesn't seem like it'd be possible, which would making OC'ing stability an issue.

 

Ah I see yea that's an interesting case. Not sure I'd pay 800 bucks for a case though haha. So for full tower would you guys says Antec 1200 or the Coolmaster HAF X?

Enigmat- Also the japanese cases looked pretty cool but are they really that good? If they're good I'll keep my eye on em till a price drop, 300+ is to much for a case for me haha

 

I have to say I do enjoy the way the black knight looks but, 700 dollars for the case then another 200 for shipping, that's 900 for a computer case...I'm sure JPN would like to think they can sell a ketch up Popsicle to a lady in white gloves but I'm not buying. I'd like to see some videos of them in action if you have any or possible reviews. Otherwise I'd stick with the antec 1200 much more affordable and probably same capabilities , unless you'd like to sell me some ketch up Popsicles as well haha. =]

 

While, I'm not going to say you should buy it, this does raise a good point. When building a from scratch PC, there are 2 components you should never EVER skimp on:

The case and the PSU, if you buy parts of the highest quality you will easily get 10+ years out of both provided you don't destroy them. Most high-end PSU's are now under warranty for 100k hours which is something like 11 years IIRC. And you case will be top notch until the ATX form factor is made obsolete. With manufacturing costs being what they are, I wouldn't count on this happening unless there is some major technological breakthrough.

 

They just shipped a couple weeks back.

 

That is a very true and good point, I just don't think it justifies it, Antec and coolmaster seem to be good companies with less then half the cost. Also what's a good PSU company? Corsair seems to have the best ratings on newegg, wondering because I think I might be getting some money in the very near future. Would like to upgrade pieces of my machine =]

 

Corsair is my favorite, but regardless of whom you buy, make sure it is modular. That is the best feature of any PSU these days.

 

Just to start i assemble Pc for a living ( and watercooling ) so i prety seen it all.

The best case ever i see for the price is the Coolermaster elite 335.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119161&Tpk=elite 335

You can add a 120mm fan at the front ant it works great. and a Noctua NH-D14 fit well inside. in this picture i show 2 ATI hd 5770. But i fitted it with 2 GTX 470 in the past.

Honestly if you are not going for the look this is the case to get.

If your going watercooling i suggest The HAF 932 black edition. i watercooled 3 of them and the triple radiator mount is great.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...30&cm_re=haf_932_black-_-11-119-230-_-Product

 

Hmm watercooling sounds iffy to me, I've never done it and it sounds really interesting, just a bit sketchy. Care to explain, I'd Wikipedia but what good is tech talk for then. =] Do you have to change the liquid weekly? I've heard people say, "It'll run frigid" but does it really make that much of a difference? Does it cost much much more in the long run if you do have to constantly change liquid. I'd create another thread but I think I might be alone on this one haha

 

the watercooling operates much like the radiator / engine cooling system in your car. the heat from your CPU transfers through the contacts of the water cooling system to the water itself which is constantly circulating through the "chain" if you will - CPU contact, hose from the cpu to the radiator (which is cooled by the fan / s behind it) back through another hose to the CPU contact. nothing gets wet, of course.

very simple. really no need to worry about springing a leak, unless you stab inside your case blindly with a knife.

edit - my system uses a corsair H50. above I believe you have the "radiators" mounted directly above the CPU with fans working in-between and behind? looks interesting.

 

So would it be a good decision to go down the water cooling route or is it really personal preference?

 

I think for the case that I have it's a personal choice. water conducts heat far better than air, but if you have five fans going at once, you're in good shape. I believe water cooling can give you the edge in performance, but if you don't have the right case / airflow for the rest of your components, then leave the fans at work instead. I know I originally had my watercooler inside a shit-tacular case that essentially took one of two fans away from the rest of the computer. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but everything gets hot and nothing works good when it's too hot. with the Cooler Master HAF 932 (yeh I have that one, it's great) I have tons of space, fans, vents, etc. I probably don't need the water setup but it also makes that much more sense in the case I have just because it doesn't kill the airflow of everything else, and again, there's plenty of space for it.

you can get a corsair h50 and the HAF 932 for about 10$ more the HAF X alone

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&Tpk=corsair%20h50

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160&cm_re=cooler_master_haf_932-_-11-119-160-_-Product

 

Amazing CM work, very impressive. Just turn off that blue light

 

I've heard nothing but bad/meh things about the H50, the new model, I think it's the H70 is a bit louder but a lot more effective. Still though WCiaB really isn't the best of ideas yet.