Nishikawa's Application

Discussion in 'Denied Applications' started by Nishikawa, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. Nishikawa
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    1. Character Name, Class, and Main Spec: NLSHLKAWA, Rogue, 51/18/2 Assassination

    2. Armory Link (and talent choices explained): http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sargeras&cn=Nlshlkawa

    3. List raid helpful professions: Enchanting/Jewelcrafting

    4. Time playing WoW and PvE progression: 5 Years Rogue Experience, 9/12 ICC , ToGC, Naxxramas, Ulduar 9/9 HM, BT, TK, ICC, KZ, ZA

    5. Describe your method for theorycrafting your class: I know the extent of all of my abilities and skills as a rogue and can adapt my rotation and talents to maximize my dps in any situation.

    6. Age (18 is required with limited exceptions): 19

    7. Occupation and living arrangements that impact raiding (family, classes, dorm, night shifts etc): None

    8. Guild you are leaving and why (If you join another guild without following up here, application will be closed): Atonement-I was working with Hansuki. People weren't dedicated to 25 progression and wouldn't show up for raids.

    9. How did you hear about us? I have known of Xen since I raided with them in BT.

    10. List consumables you bring to raid: Flasks/Food

    11. Any Scheduling conflicts (consider possible weekend groups for 10mans): None

    12. Provide measure of your damage/healing such as Recount (Screenshot to include player breakdown of attack %'s), WoW Web Stats (WWS), or World of Logs listing: 9-11k DPS

    13. Provide a UI screenshot: I don't use any mods for my UI.

    14. Final comments you feel could help your application: I'm the best that a rogue can be.
     
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    "5. Describe your method for theorycrafting your class: I know the extent of all of my abilities and skills as a rogue and can adapt my rotation and talents to maximize my dps in any situation."

    Explain your gear/gemming choices for me.
     
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    Looks like enchanting/lw to me. also, why are half your gems agil and the other half are ap?
     
  4. Nishikawa
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    I have two rogues Nishikawa & Nlshlkawa. Nishikawa has JC/Enchanting. Nlshlkawa has Enchanting/LW. Nlshlkawa is geared for PvE whereas Nishikawa is geared for PvP. I am currently in the process of regemming to AP since I am above my crit cap and would benefit from more ap either way. I look for gear that has Crit, Haste, AP, & Agility unless I need a piece to reach hit/expertise cap when I swap out pieces. If I cannot find a better piece, I will go for arp/haste pieces. I focus less on the smaller things such as gems and enchants and more on things like rotation/spec/gear.
    UI Screenshot- http://i48.tinypic.com/14d3qtz.jpg
    WMO- http://www.wowmeteronline.com//combat/log/1482810
     
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    I would still like a real answer to number 5. Your answer didn't express any type of "theorycrafting"

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    I find this unacceptable. You should focus on everything about your class. progression isn't just handed out, it is earned.
     
  6. Nishikawa
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    You misread my statement. I value skill and resourcefulness more than gear and enchants.
    If everybody had a perfect rotation, gear and enchants would be the most important aspect of the game. I also do very little or no theorycrafting. I know the limits of my skill, items, and class mechanics. I also know a fair deal about the mechanics of other classes. I am more than capable of carrying my own weight in a raid and do not require another 200 dps to beat an enrage timer that can easily be beaten unless there is dead weight in the raid. A progressive raid will always have the required classes and roles to overcome any encounter and is flexible enough to function without some of those classes. If you want a real answer you're going to have to ask a more specific question. I can tell you all about how 4 more sec on tricks is better than an energy pool of 110 and the benefits of 15% speed increase against 20% increased healing received Or how crit could benefit your dps less than ap does after a certain point. The game dosen't have to be this complicated and was not intended to challenge you on a mathematical but rather a strategical and analytical level. Dead dps who are over geared are less than under geared dps who know how to avoid what will kill them.
     
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    well, it appears gems are correct, but i believe the point was in the way you originally failed to answer the questions
     
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    I'd rather be the best of both worlds. That extra "200 dps" as you say, tallied over everyone in the raid means a lot, and not in the sense that the boss can be downed faster, but in the sense that it can be controlled better before the enrage timer.

    While some fights are tank and spank, others require damage mitigation that could extend a fight past the capabilities of a raid. There is a higher success rate for the raid if dpsers can use more damage mitigation techniques because they have the means via being maximized in dps.

    Sindragosa is a big example of this kind of situation. The more people using certain abilities the higher chance of death. If everyone is pumping out max dps, that gives people more time to stop attacking to avoid damage and survive until the end of the fight.

    TBH, Rogues are very cookie cutter. If you can't spend the 5 minutes to enchant or gem properly before every raid, then you are not the type of raider we are looking for.

    On a side note: Theorycrafting can also lead to proper strategies and new techniques. Assuming you know better than a community of thousands (or more) is just plain ignorance IMO.
     
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    nishikawa's a good dps and appears to be a smarter than average player... however, our application is designed with open-ended questions for the purpose of evaluating the person behind the character.
    while limegreen may have taken a slightly less than friendly approach to addressing our concern, the concern is still there: you answered a question, when asked about further detail you dodged further explanation seeming to take it personally, which led to greater conflict between an officer also of your class.

    i agree that survival at 99% of max dps is better than dying early to squeeze out 1% more, but thats the point of the question is for you to explain your views on such things. conbine that with your original application's timing (you did it on your schedule from a guild breakup before you had properly adjusted gemming to point of being seriously considered) and you have a situation that requires a little less attitude and a little more patience in explaining things out.
     
  10. Nishikawa
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    I'm not saying I know more than thousands of people. There is a limit on how much anybody can know about about a single class and I am confident that I am very close to that limit. I find that their knowledge more often than not only confirms my ideas about rogues. If you still have doubts about my abilities, I can prove the extent of my knowledge in-game. Although rogues are ap/haste based since the buff to deadly poison, they still need crit, stamina, agility, hit, expertise, arp, and (in rare situations) strength. The difference between gemming/enchanting agility, haste, and ap is almost negligible since all stats balance out overall and rng is involved in every attack you make. The only real differences between myself and some of the best rogues in the world are gear and progression. I'm looking to close that gap as much as possible by raiding with a guild that is established and capable of progressing. I know too much about rogues and would rather you take my word for it over hours of discussion and scrutiny that are overtly unnecessary to reach the goals of a game that was designed to be fun and challenging to the player. I am looking for a guild that is or will be clearing ICC 25 Heroic on a regular basis since so many guilds have failed me before. There is a point where you hit the ceiling of a box and can only get to new places by moving forward. Nobody is ever at 100% of their maximum dps because of rng. If rng was completely eliminated from the game, the game would lose it's appeal and become redundant.
     
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    please explain the rare place where:
    lol

    the problem is you are arguing to argue it seems. we really don't need the drama. questions were raised from a valid standpoint since you didn't have the correct gems. you feel that your performance being as good as it is (which we are not disputing) places you above presenting yourself in a fully and properly gemmed manner to a top raiding guild. elitism and attitude that will just lead to drama that we really don't need.
    perhaps you do the same thing for a job? do you go to a potential employer with the tie draped across your shoulders cause your work performance is good enough to negate appearances?

    the application is something that gives a guild a measure of the person that continues on into a trial membership if the person is accepted, not the other way around. if you don't like that, look for the guild that does in-game applications.

    the attitude you express that ignores maximizing things you can have 100% control over cause its only a small change in "spreadsheet dps" is not a good match for our guild. i believe you will find all top guilds will look at people maximizing professions, gems, enchants, consumable buffs every fight cause its easy to do, then they apply just as much focus during a fight toward execution of rotations, positioning, and communication as you say they should...

    @swiftzz, both his toons have Enchanting... he doesn't have Engineering on either rogue:
     
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  13. Nishikawa
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    I was thinking more vanilla and leveling situations when I made that statement. An (of the tiger) piece with 10 agility and 10 strength would give you more dps than an (of the monkey) piece with 10 agility and 10 stamina, although 100 more hp has its benefits over 10 ap on a pvp server. Most of the gear vanilla didn't have ap on it and compensated for this with strength and there is +10 stats to chest which is bis for rogues. My attitude really isn't the issue here. The attitude you see is a rivalry. I am willing to throw down with what I believe to be your best rogue. I don't know what can motivate my dps more than a rivalry. I have only seen one rogue do more damage than I and it was by a very small margin on specific fights where combat had an advantage over assassination or vice-versa. I suppose the rivalry comes from my PvP experience which has proven to be very useful in situations such as the Faction Champions in ToC. More often than not, I find that the players who do not play both PvE and PvP well are the ones that hold the raid back. The small sacrifice I have made on the PvE side was to great benefit of my PvP side. If you have ever stepped into an arena, you will know that you need twice as much situational awareness to stay one step ahead of your opponents. There is no set rules for what your opponent will do in an arena and this requires a player to think quick on their feet and adapt to a dynamic situation where one simple mistake can spell defeat. I believe that 90% of drama is due to the fact that people are becoming angry at words that express very little emotion.
     
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    May I ask what "top rogues" you have raided with and are comparing against. Your ToGC meters aren't really much to compared anything against.

    Also, why did you up and leave Xen in the first place.

    The real issue is you app to raid, but you don't want to do simple work to maximize your raid performance. If are not willing to do this, then that is an attitude we don't want to bring into the guild.
     
  15. Nishikawa
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    The rogue I raided with was Input from Brotherhood of the Blade on Argent Dawn. He and I were always #1 & #2. Brotherhood of the Blade was the top horde side guild on Argent Dawn BC and Pre-BC. They had SWP on farm and the only other guild that rivaled them was a group of previous guildmates that broke away to form their own guild that eventually died. I left Xen to join my IRL friend in this guild. The guild was very close and many of them used to meet at a local LAN center that recently closed due to poor management. The GM of the guild started the LAN center but left for a college education. I will stop at nothing to be the top damage, excluding encounters where dps is not the primary objective such as Dreamwalker.
     
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    So you will get your proper enchants?
     
  17. Nishikawa
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    I was never improperly enchanted to begin with. In fact I almost always have my own enchanting mats handy so i can enchant a new piece of gear on the spot. My warrior is also a JC who has all the cuts and i spend his honor/emblems on the gems I need instead of the agonizing farm for gold to buy them.
     
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    Changing two enchants could increase your DPS.
     
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    which two would those be?
     
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    Research and tell me!